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I guess I'm in the minority who thinks that American society would have been better off if Heff had sold hats for a living.
If not him, then it would have been someone else. America has been on the road to perdition since WWII when growing affluence began to separate us from our moral groundings.
Perverting minds of young vulnerable girls...............
............when I was a teen and saw the pictorials of the playmates, I yearned to be out of my father's house, to have that kind of independence. That's the message I took from the magazine, right or wrong.
What can we say? For decades, the magazine was one source of the definition of beauty.
As far as the people who bought the mansion, I could picture them asking the butler, "Please ask Mr. Hefner if he wants to join us for dinner.".
As things go, there are a lot of pictures of Hef in my diaries, but for a different reason. The F-250 is code named "Big Bunny", though not in reference to Playboy, but when I make an entry about it, it is likely that the picture reference will be of The Big Bunny.
Further, there are pictures of this or that Playmate that I hold an attachment to for this or that, such as (the late) Bridgette Rollins.
One thing about the Hughs is that I think the reason they live so long is that they know they weren't be young forever and they let time take its toll. Such as it was with O'Brian (dead last year), such as it is with Hef.
We all go some time and while my mother saw him as something of a pimp, I think I will toast him today.
..........................even if he did pervert the mind of a young vulnerable girl.
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Originally Posted by BigDGeek
I guess I'm in the minority who thinks that American society would have been better off if Heff had sold hats for a living.
We-ll, the magazine was first going to be named "Stag Party" instead of Playboy.....but that would have been a disaster. Can you imagine the "Bunnies" wearing antlers instead of bunny ears? (I'm paraphrasing the magazine when I first read that)
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Originally Posted by MyNameIsBellaMia
Sure is. Looks like the date on the mag is 1990. The Donald was slim and trim back then.
"Nice magazine. Want to sell it?" That cover?
As it was, that's him. HEY, if it is good enough for Jimmy Carter, it is good enough for the sitting President.
As it is, I have that issue, it is sitting on the shelf somewhere, I recall unpacking in and putting it up.
It's not just that he exploited women. It's that he normalized the sexualization and objectification of women.
Shrug, I always thought that I myself would never do it but if others do, whatever.
I loved the show "Girls Next Door", I'm currently rewatching it when I heard the news. I'm sad, he really is an icon. He was one of those I thought would live forever.
Maybe the repressed and\or dumber ones. He main-streamed sex. That's one big foot in the door for the US to escape it's puritanical roots. Ironically, he arguably helped women more than men.
Maybe he had a hand in it, but he dressed women up in costumes and treated them like interchangeable playthings or party favors. I find that a lot more disturbing than the 'free love' attitude of the hippie generation for example.
It's not just that he exploited women. It's that he normalized the sexualization and objectification of women.
Again, they wouldn't have been there if they hadn't wanted to be. If the bunnies wanted to be normalized and objectified, oh, well, their choice.
There were a lot of careers back then that objectified women. Airline stewardess, for example. Sexy, sexy, sexy. And of course modeling. Go-Go dancing. And so forth.
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When PlayGirl (an extension of Playboy) was around nobody had anything to say.
Yah. I don't remember anyone saying Burt was being sexualized. He liked it and so did we! Then he'd go on Carson wearing those skin tight leather pants and he and Johnny would shoot aerosol whipped cream down the inside front of each other's pants. Good old days!
to me, it's not only about the magazine. it was everything. his whole lifestyle. creepy old man.
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