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Old 09-30-2010, 02:20 PM
 
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The jury just came in...Demeatrius Montgomery is convicted of 1st degree murder in the deaths of CMPD officers Shelton and Clark.

Took long enough!

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/09/30/1729024/jury-back-in-montgomery-case-verdict.html (broken link)

For anyone new here not familiar with the case:

Anyone watch the funeral on TV? (2007)

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/09/30/1728180/the-montgomery-trial-day-by-day.html (broken link)

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Old 09-30-2010, 02:42 PM
 
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A small piece of justice for the families of these 2 heroes! However, nothing will ever compensate for the loss of these two officers.
Between this story and the Pizza Hut Delivery Guy getting to take out some trash....it's been a good week for the prevention of crime in Charlotte!
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Old 09-30-2010, 03:03 PM
 
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He needs a rope
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Old 09-30-2010, 03:38 PM
 
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A small piece of justice for the families of these 2 heroes! However, nothing will ever compensate for the loss of these two officers.
Between this story and the Pizza Hut Delivery Guy getting to take out some trash....it's been a good week for the prevention of crime in Charlotte!

Unfortunately, we can't execute him immediately for his crime. That would be a deterrent if it was used correctly. Given the situation I'm glad he was convicted, but now he's just one more piece of trash I'm supporting.

As for the Pizza Hut attempted robbery, the only unfortunate part is that the third guy got away.
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Old 09-30-2010, 04:12 PM
 
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No execution. Montgomery sentenced to life in CMPD officers' murders | WCNC.com | Charlotte News, Weather, Traffic, and Sports | WCNC.com | News for Charlotte, NC

When they did away with the death penalty in NJ, people were unhappy, because cop killers automatically got the death penalty. However, it was pointed out that extensive studies had found that life with no parole was actually cheaper for the state, because a death sentence automatically carried an appeal with it, while life with no parole did not. Is that the case here?
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Old 09-30-2010, 04:29 PM
 
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No execution. Montgomery sentenced to life in CMPD officers' murders | WCNC.com | Charlotte News, Weather, Traffic, and Sports | WCNC.com | News for Charlotte, NC

When they did away with the death penalty in NJ, people were unhappy, because cop killers automatically got the death penalty. However, it was pointed out that extensive studies had found that life with no parole was actually cheaper for the state, because a death sentence automatically carried an appeal with it, while life with no parole did not. Is that the case here?
The reason death penalty cases are more expensive is because of multiple appeals, years of incarceration while the process is in motion, and the fact that the government (read: us) is often paying for both sides. We've allowed it to become a gigantically cumbersome process that drains huge resources, when it doesn't have to be nearly as difficult as it is.

I don't know if a non-capital case carries an automatic appeal. I don't think it does, but it's not uncommon for it to happen anyway. In this case, given how uncooperative Montgomery was, it may not.
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Old 09-30-2010, 05:42 PM
 
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The reason death penalty cases are more expensive is because of multiple appeals, years of incarceration while the process is in motion, and the fact that the government (read: us) is often paying for both sides. We've allowed it to become a gigantically cumbersome process that drains huge resources, when it doesn't have to be nearly as difficult as it is.

I don't know if a non-capital case carries an automatic appeal. I don't think it does, but it's not uncommon for it to happen anyway. In this case, given how uncooperative Montgomery was, it may not.
Well, one of the reasons for all of the appeals goes back to the Lindberg trial in NJ. After Hauptman was put to death they realized that maybe he really didn't do it. Over the years it's become a circus with all of the appeals.

This trial reminded me of the mess that's been going on for over 2 decades in Philly with Mumia Abu Jamal, an equally unpleasant cop killer. He gets trotted out on appeal after appeal. While it's not the outcome that most people wanted with Montgomery, the judge probably has saved the taxpayers a small fortune & prevents the families of the officers, here, from the nightmare that the widow of Officer Falkner has lived in Pennsylvania.

I hope that the life with no parole doesn't carry an automatic appeal, here.
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Old 09-30-2010, 06:41 PM
 
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He needs a rope


......and I've got a tree
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Old 09-30-2010, 07:50 PM
 
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Nothing a 10 cent .22 round can't take care of. Save our tax money and take him out!
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Old 09-30-2010, 08:19 PM
 
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The people who get true and royally screwed by the lifers without parole are the schlubs who are serving a one year bid from some penny ante crime. The lifers just basically screw with everyone since they have nothing to lose. Not that anyone in prison should have it easy but there is a big difference between a killer and someone who might like to drop acid a little too much.
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