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We have hired a lawyer the Armstrongs (same from the NC Supreme Court Rulings) recommended and he composed a 3 page letter stating all the reasons this HOA is against the law..and basically to CEASE and DESIST..if they tried to put a lien on our house for demanded HOA dues then they would face criminal suit of abuse of process and slander to title! Now to wait for the response..may take awhile!
Thanks everyone for your help!! We will win this battle!
We have hired a lawyer the Armstrongs (same from the NC Supreme Court Rulings) recommended and he composed a 3 page letter stating all the reasons this HOA is against the law..and basically to CEASE and DESIST..if they tried to put a lien on our house for demanded HOA dues then they would face criminal suit of abuse of process and slander to title! Now to wait for the response..may take awhile!
Thanks everyone for your help!! We will win this battle!
99% of cases like yours (well, we're only getting 1 side of the story here) can be avoided if people dealt in a civil manner w/their HOA. (Like we've seen in previous threads on c/d.)
You are no different...
Wow, you are an HOA tool. Do you happen to also own a management company? They're about the only ones left in the nation still espousing those supposed "benefits" of HOA living. Everyone else with two brain cells left is on to the scam.
Wow, you are an HOA tool. Do you happen to also own a management company? They're about the only ones left in the nation still espousing those supposed "benefits" of HOA living. Everyone else with two brain cells left is on to the scam.
Don't own a management company....even though I'd be pretty rich, its not the career I'd like to have...
Sorry you had a bad experience in the past or you had trouble communicating an issue. Or maybe you just didn't do your homework before you bought and didn't read the covenant?
Or are you one of those people who don't live in one, and associate communism w/living in an HOA???
Or maybe you just didn't do your homework before you bought and didn't read the covenant?
Yes, I am a fool for not running a background check on the management company and lawfirm before I moved in. And doubly so for not thinking that the general assembly of my state would allow said lawfirm to write a law that allows them to bend the HOA covenants to include things that are not in the CCRs that allow the HOA to fine people where the HOA documents don't allow that and to take their homes where the CCRs don't allow that.
Stupid me.
And the OP is a fool for never reading the CCRs that didn't exist, don't exist and never existed in a legal form. Silly them. They should have known that you can still loose your house to an "HOA" when an HOA doesn't exist unless you're willing to roll-over or pay thousands of dollars to fight said non-HOA.
Regardless of your personal experience the above examples show me without a doubt that these organizations in NC are evil as an industry.
that allow the HOA to fine people where the HOA documents don't allow that and to take their homes where the CCRs don't allow that.
Why did you put yourself in that situation in the first place? (to be fined and lose your home)
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doubt that these organizations in NC are evil as an industry.
Evil as an industry.....riiiiiiight ....just like every other industry out there where people had a bad experience (which in an overwhelming majority could've been avoided)
Why did you put yourself in that situation in the first place? (to be fined and lose your home)
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Evil as an industry.....riiiiiiight ....just like every other industry out there where people had a bad experience (which in an overwhelming majority could've been avoided)
Why are we having such a hard time communicating on this? You said that I put myself into a situation that I said I didn't. You asked why no research was done before buying the home. The point is, research WAS DONE and there was no situation where I could loose my my home or be fined in the CCRs.
So, why are you asking me why I put myself in the situation when it was not int he CCRs when I moved in, was not in the CCRs when I was fined and was not in the CCRs NOW. Please explain exactly what I did wrong.
And please tell me plainly if you support the idea of the law that allows the fining and foreclosure of a home when there aren't any provisions in the CCRs for that? If you do then I'm wasting my time with you because we'll never bridge the logic differences.
Your "overwhelming majority" argument is out of thin air. You have nothing to base that on.
You also side-stepped the entire issue of the OP being fined by an HOA that doesn't legally exist. Will you plainly state if you agree with that?
There may also be good brothel owners and pimps as well as porn studios. I'm just saying that it is hard to be in some industries that have unsavory issues and still be upright and ethical.
If you are in the business of taking people's houses for non-violations or in the OP's case where no HOA exists, then I lump you in with the other vices of this land.
Why are we having such a hard time communicating on this? You said that I put myself into a situation that I said I didn't. You asked why no research was done before buying the home. The point is, research WAS DONE and there was no situation where I could loose my my home or be fined in the CCRs.
So, why are you asking me why I put myself in the situation when it was not int he CCRs when I moved in, was not in the CCRs when I was fined and was not in the CCRs NOW. Please explain exactly what I did wrong.
And please tell me plainly if you support the idea of the law that allows the fining and foreclosure of a home when there aren't any provisions in the CCRs for that? If you do then I'm wasting my time with you because we'll never bridge the logic differences.
Your "overwhelming majority" argument is out of thin air. You have nothing to base that on.
You also side-stepped the entire issue of the OP being fined by an HOA that doesn't legally exist. Will you plainly state if you agree with that?
There may also be good brothel owners and pimps as well as porn studios. I'm just saying that it is hard to be in some industries that have unsavory issues and still be upright and ethical.
If you are in the business of taking people's houses for non-violations or in the OP's case where no HOA exists, then I lump you in with the other vices of this land.
Yours is a different issue. If you move into and belong to an HOA, the overwhelming majority of people don't have an issue. And many who do could've avoided their problem from the get go..
Just look at past threads on here and you'll see...
You are painting an incorrect picture on ALL HOA's which is wrong. Again, just becuase you are in a small minority, don't lump them all together....
Why are we having such a hard time communicating on this? You said that I put myself into a situation that I said I didn't. You asked why no research was done before buying the home. The point is, research WAS DONE and there was no situation where I could loose my my home or be fined in the CCRs......
Hard time communicating? We spent 1/2 this very long topic trying to establish that in order for anything to happen like this you would have had to had a HOA easement in the property record. You and the OP seemed to not know this, or wanted to avoid the issue that you bought a place and didn't research what this means. IMO, what you continue to state doesn't make any sense.
In any case, I agree with Jack. Broad generalizations on the "evils" of HOAs are meaningless based on a single example.
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....just like every other industry out there where people had a bad experience (which in an overwhelming majority could've been avoided)
