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Of course that to survive, a company needs to either create engineering branches in India/China or bring them over on working visa.
OR, they need to be willing to hire graduates out of college with degrees instead of demanding that everyone start out with 5 years of experience (which is impossible). If companies wont hire new college graduates, how do they expect a local pool of talent to build up?
OR, they need to be willing to hire graduates out of college with degrees instead of demanding that everyone start out with 5 years of experience (which is impossible). If companies wont hire new college graduates, how do they expect a local pool of talent to build up?
This is a key issue. Companies are unwilling to pay for training. So, they would rather pay cheaper wages.
Looking at the number of job postings says nothing about whether there is a shortage or not.
I can look on journalismjobs.com and see 825 open jobs in newspapers. Are you going to tell me that there is a shortage of newspaper reporters/editors now? Every one of those jobs will have at least 30 applications.
It might be less in the engineering field (10 applications per job, say). But there is no shortage.
The biggest mistake is when people believe that all college degrees deserve a job...there are colleges and colleges, programs and programs...
Unfortunately since running a college is a huge business, there is a big discrepancy between the real economic need and what most degrees are offering.
So yes, there are lots of people with college degree but their skills are not matching the demand.
Of course that all the open jobs will get get at least 10 applicants, but that does not mean they could do the job.
Ask a headhunter who specializes in finding skilled engineers and they'll tell you how hard is to find the right people. I know people who get requests for interview on almost daily basis, since the only way to find the right people, it is to try to "steal" competitors employees.
Bigest mistake is when young people are told to just get a college degree - they'll decide what they want later on...
Most will end up with huge loans and have no chance to pay the back since their diploma is useless.
This is a key issue. Companies are unwilling to pay for training. So, they would rather pay cheaper wages.
How can you train an arts major or a technologist (although his 3 years degree says engineer) to become a scientist/engineer???
There is an advance mathematics and science lack of understanding on most people with college degrees, and no company can afford to even try to teach these subjects to these people.
OR, they need to be willing to hire graduates out of college with degrees instead of demanding that everyone start out with 5 years of experience (which is impossible). If companies wont hire new college graduates, how do they expect a local pool of talent to build up?
Depends very much on the degree and college. Highly regarded colleges and corresponding degree graduates usually have a couple of companies to choose from, before they even graduate.
But student has to be in the right field and a proven overachiever. Too many students are hired and cannot hold their jobs.
Half of battle I think it is lack of proper attitude towards learning.
Depends very much on the degree and college. Highly regarded colleges and corresponding degree graduates usually have a couple of companies to choose from, before they even graduate.
But student has to be in the right field and a proven overachiever. Too many students are hired and cannot hold their jobs.
Half of battle I think it is lack of proper attitude towards learning.
That just isn't true anymore. Maybe thats the way it used to be, but times are different. I have regular discussions with my parents who are both engineering professors (as well as chairs of their departments), students no longer get job offers before they graduate. They said thats the way it used to be though, but no longer. Sometimes it may still happen, but its not the norm.
How can you train an arts major or a technologist (although his 3 years degree says engineer) to become a scientist/engineer???
There is an advance mathematics and science lack of understanding on most people with college degrees, and no company can afford to even try to teach these subjects to these people.
Again, no shortage of engineers exists. Adding more engineers would just serve to suppress wages in that profession
An accredited engineering degree provides those high level mathematics needed for most engineering jobs. And I would assume with this base of knowledge, an engineer could be trained in more specialized areas of engineering. What Shortage of Scientists and Engineers? - NYTimes.com
When discussing the training problem, I was thinking more broadly of companies requiring very specific skills and very specific experience for even their most entry-level jobs. Why Companies Can't Find the Employees They Need - WSJ.com
There are many applications for each of those jobs. Sure, it's a more in-demand field than many others, and there is nothing wrong with promoting more involvment in STEM. But there is not a shortage, really.
Would flooding the market with STEM grads do anything but drive wages down?
A shortage? Many people trying to get those jobs don't have the training or skills to do 'em....flooding the market with untrained people attempting to be an engineer after majoring in drama....that's been my experience as an engineer. I've seen some of em get hired because of who they knew, and it's a slow grinding uphill learning curve.
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