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Personal style is personal. And looking down your nose at someone because he does not share your personal style isn't very decorous. To me, manners are far more important than some lose definition of "decorum." Much rather a person in "sloppy dress" who is respectful of the wait staff, polite to his tablemates, and a generous tipper, than a "well-dressed" person who snarks about the clothes of people at other tables.
"Pretension - A claim to something, such as a privilege or right." The claim here is that someone with a dressier sense of style should expect that from everyone else.
Again, these are matters of personal taste. Who decides what is appropriate? And many people don't care to be attractive. They just want to be comfortable and enjoy their meal.
Clothes are a shorthand for class.
I might have to do some field work on this last theory.
COPED, you are the only person I know who can make a class war out of a dress code. So Bolshevik.
Let me know what you think once you have completed your field work, lol.
I bet the wait staff loves the slobs who tip well more than well dressed stiffs who act like the wait staff are their personal slaves.
Great point Felt. I remember waiting on this old slob one time, and then he put out a personal black AMEX to pay. I was like: Nothing worse than getting a table full of suits that don't spend money.
But if they can afford to eat there, then who cares what they wear (as long as they are covered up)?
Who cares? Obviously, the restaurants that have a dress code care and so do the patrons who go to an upscale restaurant to have a "special night out."
If you don't care about having a special night out, dressing up for your spouse/significant other, then I guess you wouldn't understand. Not putting you down, GoPhils. I guess the same things are not important to all people and this is just one of those things.
No one is stopping you from dressing up if you want to have a special night out. The fact that someone else is not dressed as nicely as you shouldn't make it any less special.
No one is stopping you from dressing up if you want to have a special night out. The fact that someone else is not dressed as nicely as you shouldn't make it any less special.
Exactly! Another way to obsess about what others are doing (quite independently of you) that somehow seems to affect you!?
No one is stopping you from dressing up if you want to have a special night out. The fact that someone else is not dressed as nicely as you shouldn't make it any less special.
We are discussing restaurants that have a dress code and folks who aren't sticking to it.
We are talking sloppy vs. NICE, not NICE vs. DESIGNER or FORMAL. In this case, it was supposed to be Business Casual.
You wouldn't put on a pair of khakis and a long sleeve shirt to take a date out to the Palm or Morton's? Your date wouldn't care if you showed up in a T shirt w/ a band name emblazoned on it - and a pair of jeans?
If you were going to a bar or a chain restaurant, I would think the T shirt and Jeans/shorts would be fine. But we are not talking about those places cause they do not have a dress code.
I go out for the occasional nice meal and try to dress nicely, and if the restaurant had a dress code, I would try to follow it. But I don't worry about what others are wearing.
I go out for the occasional nice meal and try to dress nicely, and if the restaurant had a dress code, I would try to follow it. But I don't worry about what others are wearing.
I don't worry about it, either.
I do feel it takes away from the decorum of the environment, tho.
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Nothing worse than getting a table full of suits that don't spend money.
