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Old 07-22-2008, 10:55 AM
 
Location: The 12th State
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My brother is a firefighter in Miami and when there is a serious situation going on, they are allowed to do whatever is necessary to arrive at the situation and help out in anyway possible.
GREAT POINT

This way it should be
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Old 07-22-2008, 11:21 AM
 
Location: greensboro, nc
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so be it!!
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Old 07-22-2008, 11:34 AM
 
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If ur killed by a firetruck going the wrong way and that firetruck never gets to the actual scene of the accident which causes someone at the other accident to die as well. Then what did you accomplish?

Additional ppl killed.

I'm not saying it was wrong for the fire truck to be going the wrong way, but maybe slowed down a tad?

That's just my two cents.
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Old 07-22-2008, 12:36 PM
 
Location: greensboro, nc
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If ur killed by a firetruck going the wrong way and that firetruck never gets to the actual scene of the accident which causes someone at the other accident to die as well. Then what did you accomplish?

Additional ppl killed.

I'm not saying it was wrong for the fire truck to be going the wrong way, but maybe slowed down a tad?

That's just my two cents.

Be careful Callalillies. it doesn't matter if they take a life while on their way to save a life. I just hope I'm not on the same road!
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Old 07-22-2008, 12:50 PM
 
Location: The 12th State
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There could be things along the route to this emergency that the driver of the fire truck felt that this was his best option.

I cannot comment of the ramp in question or the normal exit ramp due to it been awhile since I have traveled this route but here is some scenarios that the driver of the fire truck use to make his judgement call to use the ramp the way he did.

This could have been the quickest way to go to the location due to the normal way would have involve a huge median blocking him from reaching the point of the emergency without having to go out of the way to get to it. and it probably very hard for a fire truck to do a U turn or 3 point turn both are time consuming and would have to hope all lanes of traffic will not ignore what is going on.

Traffic:
The driver of the fire truck may have felt that they normal way would involve alot of traffic sitting at a light with no room to move over.

I seriously doubt the driver choose this option that he use to put lives in danger but did so because it was his best option in reaching the point of the emergency.

Patience; It's More Than a Virtue
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Old 07-22-2008, 01:10 PM
 
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You know, we could beat this dead horse for years, arguing over how it should have happened. As I see it, (1) The law permits emergency vehicles to operate differently when responding to an emergency. (2) It is the civilian's responsibility to yield the right of way, to a vehicle responding to an emergency. (3) It is the responsibility of the driver and the officer to ensure their path is clear before entering in to a dangerous situation.

Regardless of what you "feel" the law should be, it actually says that emergency operators must show due regard- plain and simple. If there was a blind corner, and the emergency vehicle was traveling at 35mph IMO due regard was shown. If however the truck was traveling at 60mph, obviously it wasn't. It is ridiculous to think that just because an emergency vehicle is running lights and sirens, they are given Carte Blanche to get to the scene however possible.
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Old 07-22-2008, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Charlotte. Or Detroit.
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...when there is a serious situation going on, they are allowed to do whatever is necessary to arrive at the situation and help out in anyway possible.
Wrong.

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GREAT POINT

This way it should be
Wrong.

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Regardless of what you "feel" the law should be, it actually says that emergency operators must show due regard- plain and simple.
Right.


I have the utmost respect for emergency workers, but they are certainly not allowed to do whatever the heck they want, nor should they be able to in my opinion. All lives are valuable; they shouldn't disregard lives while on their way to try to save a life. Common sense.
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Old 07-22-2008, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Moon Over Palmettos
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On the same light, if a police chase ensues, and a police car goes the wrong way following in pursuit (now this one WILL be a high speed chase), and they hit a vehicle, or heaven forbid, a pedestrian, and injury or death results, aren't they (the police) liable????
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Old 07-22-2008, 07:06 PM
 
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On the same light, if a police chase ensues, and a police car goes the wrong way following in pursuit (now this one WILL be a high speed chase), and they hit a vehicle, or heaven forbid, a pedestrian, and injury or death results, aren't they (the police) liable????
Actually, I believe CMPD's policies prohibit high speed chases without senior approval. But, if it did happen, they would absolutely be liable.
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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Actually, I believe CMPD's policies prohibit high speed chases without senior approval. But, if it did happen, they would absolutely be liable.
And don't think the criminals don't know it either
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