09-17-2010, 10:13 AM
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We are in the process of searching for our first home. Although it's exciting, it is also scary. We have been looking in the New Lenox area.
Is there anyone here that can give me some more insight on the area? There seems to be A LOT of homes for sale. I know thats happening everywhere, but wondering is there a more specific reason then just the economy.
So wondering what everyone is thinking.
Would you buy in New Lenox??
Thanks for the opinions
09-17-2010, 10:22 AM
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09-17-2010, 10:35 AM
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For as far back as the gold rush days...
...when an area goes on a full tilt BOOM, it inevitable there will be a counter BUST about as large.
At the peak of real estate frenzy in New Lenox there were people signing deals that were just way too "exhuberent". There aree too few jobs in that part of the region, too many homes that are too similar, too little infrastructure to be supported solely by propeerty taxes and a shocking lack of concerns that too many people had too small a down payment. Lots of people get very upside down very quickly, and for people with even a little more sense they realized that a new home in a new area is not the be all and end all, thus when prices in New Lenox were topping that in mire established areas lots of people realized they were never going to see their investment back...
Don't get me wrong. There is something to be said for wanting a shiny new house, and prices in New Lenox were way way below that in other areas. Some some people did get a lot of house fo the money. The problem is that some people bit off way more house than they should have, and the lenders were only too happy to let 'em. If you do not mind the distance it might be worth shopping for what may still be a good deal, but unless some radical shifts unemployment happen I just do not believe that New Lenox will even be more than a pretty far flung fringe suburb, and that will not be good for long term values....
09-17-2010, 10:36 AM
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No, we have not considered that area very much. My husband works with a man who raves about the New Lenox school system. We have three children. So we have taken his opinion into consideration. I'm just looking for others opinions of the area and the value of the homes. Trying to avoid buying a home that will decrease in value after a few short years.
Thanks for the links Urza, but it seems they are full of racial arguments. Not interested in that.
09-17-2010, 11:50 AM
Location: Chicago, Tri-Taylor
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If property values go down in that community, that will impact the quality of the schools via less money per pupil and a more challenging demographic that needs more resources as fewer resources are coming in. That will put downward pressure on test scores, and may create a spiral effect of education minded famlies leaving the community.
I also think new schools built on annexed land are exempt from the tax assessment cap, temporarily providing a boost in that the school will have more resources than those in established areas. But that will not last forever. You may want to check into that insofar as New Lenox is concerned. They also do not need to devote the same amount of resources to facility maintenance and upgrades - again, a temporary advantage.
As Chet implies, you may want to also look at more established areas. A shiny new 'burb may look good at first but, once closely examined, potential near long term drawbacks will surface.
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09-17-2010, 05:09 PM
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I agree with the others new lennox may be a town to think twice about. If you can afford it, near by orland park is a great town to look into to.
09-21-2010, 12:38 PM
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firefly000: Although there are parts of what is written here that are true ... New Lenox DID experience a large influx of construction in the last decade or so, it is hardly a "new" town. Just an extreme south suburb that caught much of the migration from the City of Chicago and older suburbs.
New Lenox has much to recommend it, as does the entire area. With three children to think about, you could hardly do much better than to consider the Lincoln-Way High School district for them. New Lenox hosts the original high school campus, LWHS - Central along Route 30, a major corridor for traffic in and out of the Village. The new LWHS - West is found along Gourgar Road and Laraway Roads. The other high school campuses are found in Frankfort (LWHS - East) and Frankfort Square/Tinley, (LWHS - North). This school district takes great pride in the physical maintenance of their schools. The original LWHS - Central campus building is pristeen inside .. and they opened that building in the mid-1950's. The music departments for L-W high schools are amazing, both in band and chorus. Their academic records and test scores are high and they are rated a top school in the nation. The grade schools in each feeder town into the high school district is good too. My children attended the Mokena schools and LWHS and got an amazing education .. so I can speak directly to this issue. Sports is also very important to the area ... so a well-rounded educational experience is available for your children. Frankfort is probably the high-end of housing for this high school district. New Lenox and Mokena in the middle, with Manhattan retaining more of its rural flavor aned not having "boomed" quite like the other feeder school areas as of yet. Housing is probably most affordable there, as of yet. With Manhattan being the most southern village of the 4 major feeder communities, that is somewhat natural.
Mokena, New Lenox, and Manhattan all have commuter trains for commuting to the City and further north. With the extension of I-355 being completed in the last few years, commuting to the north and western suburbs has become much easier ... as it hooks into other arteries, such as I-80, Rte. 45, Rte. 30 (Lincoln Highway), Rt. 57, I-55, I-88, and more. Frankfort has commuter trains nearby in Mokena and along Rt. 45 to the north. Silver Cross Hospital, presently located on the east side of Joliet, is relocating to New Lenox, conveniently right off I-355, Rt. 6, and nearby Cedar Road a main road thru the town. There will be the main new hospital, medical facilities, and a Women's Medical building (already opened) on this new campus. Other hospitals are nearby in each direction. Major franchises have invested in this entire area, so I do not see this area floundering long or at all. Yes, prices are deflated right now and there are many homes on the market. But with the commuter trains still going to the city, the downturn will not last and the area will bounce back. All of the major feeder towns are located in Will County, IL ... and Will has been rated one of the fastest growing counties in our nation now for about a decade. With the I-80 corridor being pinpointed as a major corridor for future commercial growth ... the surrounding areas will benefit.
You have been told to consider Joliet. Joliet has some beautiful older areas .. namely the Cathedral areas that are protected by homeowners' groups. Most of its newer growth was to the west of the city (Shorewood) and north into Plainfield along Rte. 59 and west. Prices of homes cover a wide economic range ... and areas can vary in many ways. So please, if considering any of the areas mentioned above in this comment, please work with a real estate professional well-versed in that area, as they can guide you to what will be a best fit for you and your children. Just my strong suggestion ...
If you need a recommendation for a real estate professional in any of these locations, please do not hesitate to ask and write. I not only grew up in the area, but have been a mortgage professional in Will County and surrounding counties for over 33 years. Please feel free to ask more questions. I'll help however I can. Whatever you decide and wherever you choose to buy .. best of luck to you and your family.
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09-21-2010, 02:28 PM
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Lot to agree with, a few points to ask for clarification...
Not sure if golf lover was referring to the music programs specifically, but it seemed to me that "top rated schools in the nation" was meant in general sense, surely that would be easy to verify.
The list from US News fails to list any of the Lincoln Way schools in even the the bronze or honorable mention categories:
Best High Schools Search - US News and World Report
To be sure, there are many folks very happy with things in New Lenox, but out of fairness it ought to be clear that academically speaking the schools are not in any uniquely distinguished category.
For lunch I choose a place that has really good sandwiches. Some people might even say they are "amazing" and if there are objective standards of how one would rank sandwiches surely the value of what I got would be excellent. "top rated in the nation"? Not by a long shot...
09-22-2010, 09:12 AM
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To be sure, there are many folks very happy with things in New Lenox, but out of fairness it ought to be clear that academically speaking the schools are not in any uniquely distinguished category.
Yea, I do know some Lincoln Wayers and this is definitely the case. They are very, very proud of their school system, to the point where they border on getting on me for living in a "lesser" school district, lol. Nothing wrong with a little pride, I guess. It'll be interesting to see if they're just as happy after their financial advantages dry up and/or they receive an influx of more challenging students to teach. Hopefully they'll be able to swing it.
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People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)