Chicago nowhere near U.S. ‘murder capital’ (Oakland, Detroit: transplants, crime rates)

[Atlanta_BD]

Originally Posted by afdinatl

It's the most dangerous to me. If not post articles from other cities that have had 82 shootings in one weekend.

Still at, Tony?

[Larry Siegel]

Originally Posted by chet everett

The list includes Bronx & Brooklyn...

Administrative divisions of New York - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

C'mon, the Bronx, Brooklyn, and Manhattan are boroughs - not "distinct cities" - but New York, all 5 boroughs combined, also included separately in the list, is a "distinct city."

[Chicago60614]

Originally Posted by PriusH8r

Try to spin it however you want to, but Chicago is the place making nightly headlines for its extreme violence.

I think that's the whole point though - Chicago is middle of the road for large cities in regards to violent crime rates, yet it's always the one that grabs all the headlines.

Why not Atlanta, Washington DC, Miami, Indinapolis, etc. that hall have higher murder rates?

I understand the point that the sheer number is higher than those cities, although the city has millions more people, so obviously you need to pay attention to rates. I'm not going to say Flint is more safe than San Francisco because San Francisco has more murders.

Crime is bad, but you come off like you're falling for the big headlines and running with the media because it drives viewership. Looking at the reality of the situation instead of popping up from 1,000 miles away is what's needed. You're just falling for the media without really understanding any of the backstory of what you're talking about.

[CCrest182]

Originally Posted by Chicago60614

I think that's the whole point though - Chicago is middle of the road for large cities in regards to violent crime rates, yet it's always the one that grabs all the headlines.

Why not Atlanta, Washington DC, Miami, Indinapolis, etc. that hall have higher murder rates?

I understand the point that the sheer number is higher than those cities, although the city has millions more people, so obviously you need to pay attention to rates. I'm not going to say Flint is more safe than San Francisco because San Francisco has more murders.

Crime is bad, but you come off like you're falling for the big headlines and running with the media because it drives viewership. Looking at the reality of the situation instead of popping up from 1,000 miles away is what's needed. You're just falling for the media without really understanding any of the backstory of what you're talking about.

Yes but when comparing Chicago to other cities it's size like NYC, LA, and perhaps some other exceptions like Dallas and Phoenix, it is outrageously high. It's just incomparable to put a world class city with well over 2 million people to cities with a few hundred thousand people.

[Maintainschaos]

Originally Posted by CCrest182

Yes but when comparing Chicago to other cities it's size like NYC, LA, and perhaps some other exceptions like Dallas and Phoenix, it is outrageously high. It's just incomparable to put a world class city with well over 2 million people to cities with a few hundred thousand people.

Of the five largest cities in the U.S.A., Philadelphia and Houston are really the peer cities to which Chicago should be compared (and maybe LA, but certainly not NYC). Even so (and with the spike in homicides that year) through 2012, Chicago didn't have the highest homicide rate, robbery rate, assault rate, property crime rate, burglary rate, or larceny rate. It did have the highest vehicle theft rate. I don't know if there's a better website to compare so easily (including 2013 states), but the table filtering on Wikipedia makes it pretty easy:

United States cities by crime rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[LeotheOrangeCat]

I suppose it depends on whether the murder capital is the city with the most murders or the city with the highest murder rate.

[The Villages Guy]

Originally Posted by LeotheOrangeCat

I suppose it depends on whether the murder capital is the city with the most murders or the city with the highest murder rate.

I really don't think anyone wants their city to be either one, unfortunately Chicago is. I talk to someone who moved from Florida up to Chicago and it is obvious now that he regrets it.

[Chicago60614]

Originally Posted by CCrest182

Yes but when comparing Chicago to other cities it's size like NYC, LA, and perhaps some other exceptions like Dallas and Phoenix, it is outrageously high. It's just incomparable to put a world class city with well over 2 million people to cities with a few hundred thousand people.

NYC and LA are basically the lowest rates out there at the moment. Of course it will seem high compared to them - anyone would. For large cities OVERALL Chicago is middle of the pack.

[rubbersoul89]

And it should be mentioned that LA's rate has only recently really plumetted, go back 10-15 years and it was neck and neck with Chicago.

NYC used to have multiple thousands of murders every year.

Only within the past couple of decades have we seen the murder rates drop, Chicago's has simply not dropped as fast as the two largest cities in the country.

[RarelyOffended]

These murder capitol list make no sense. Why? Because a smaller city will have a higher murder per capita then a big city with over a million people. The worst city right now on top of these list is East St Louis Illinois.....population 27,000. Homicides? 17-25. Compared to Chicago it would give this small city with a small population a higher murder per capita because they are comparing it with Chicago a city of 2.7 million. But the neighborhoods in Chicago are worse then East St Louis. Englewood has 30-40 murders a year with a community population of 30,000 to 35,000. Big cities with more yuppies, middle class people dilute crime statistics its common sense. Chicago is the big city murder capitol compared to New York and Los Angeles.