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So, the question is: can one be born again without being a disciple of Jesus?
Luke 6: 46 "Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?"
A definition of disciple is a follower of person or idea -- somebody who believes in and follows the teachings of a leader, philosophy, or religion.
Many people think themselves to be disciples of the Messiah, but they don't have any idea how to follow Him -- meaning do what He said to do and what He did.
I blame these main factors:
The church in general is more interested in entertaining than in teaching.
The church is more interested in entertaining because that is where the bucks are.
The church in general itself is uneducated in the Bible and thus don't know what he did.
The church in general is more interested in its traditions than in the Truth.
The people are more interested in entertainment than in learning Bible.
The people want more bang for their buck.
The people don't study the Bible.
The people will not give up their traditions for the Truth.
Interested in being a disciple? Start reading the Bible with an eye for:
So, the question is: can one be born again without being a disciple of Jesus?
Luke 6: 46 "Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?"
A definition of disciple is a follower of person or idea -- somebody who believes in and follows the teachings of a leader, philosophy, or religion.
Many people think themselves to be disciples of the Messiah, but they don't have any idea how to follow Him -- meaning do what He said to do and what He did.
I blame these main factors:
The church in general is more interested in entertaining than in teaching.
The church is more interested in entertaining because that is where the bucks are.
The church in general itself is uneducated in the Bible and thus don't know what he did.
The church in general is more interested in its traditions than in the Truth.
The people are more interested in entertainment than in learning Bible.
The people want more bang for their buck.
The people don't study the Bible.
The people will not give up their traditions for the Truth.
Interested in being a disciple? Start reading the Bible with an eye for:
What Messiah did
What He said to do
Do it.
Given your logic here, wouldn't that make "once saved always saved" a false doctrine?
John 8:31 - Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed
Continuing in Jesus' Word is a requirement to be His disciple.
Jesus put a condition on being His disciple. That condition is "continuing in His word". If we don't do that, then we won't be His disciples. If we aren't His disciples, then we aren't born again anymore; we've whithered up and are ready to be tossed into the oven. Let's hope we wake up and repent before we're thrown into the fire!
Jesus put a condition on being His disciple. That condition is "continuing in His word". If we don't do that, then we won't be His disciples. If we aren't His disciples, then we aren't born again anymore; we've whithered up and are ready to be tossed into the oven. Let's hope we wake up and repent before we're thrown into the fire!
Ok. I think that if you are not a born-again Christian, then perhaps that you are not a disciple of Jesus? People can (insert pretend) to be a Christian but not be a disciple of Jesus. Again, it leads back to, "was there true repentence?"
The difference or distinction in the expression of born "again" has the meaning of born "anew" without the concept of repetition.
Thus, through the Spirit of Christ shall all be revived and restored to newness of life.
"All correction for the moment seems not to be joyful, but sorrowful; yet to those who have been trained by it, subsequently, yield the peaceful fruit of righteousness."
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