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Belief can be based on reason or faith. Belief based on reason is based on evidence. Belief based on faith is belief not necessarily based on evidence.
As Martin Gardner pointed out, if it is not strongly contradicted by science or logical reasons, then you have a right to make a leap of faith if it provides sufficient satisfaction.
Last edited by ancient warrior; 09-18-2010 at 10:42 AM..
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Belief can be based on reason or faith. Belief based on reason is based on evidence. Belief based on faith is belief not necessarily based on evidence.
As Martin Gardner pointed out, if it is not strongly contradicted by science or logical reasons, then you have a right to make a leap of faith if it provides sufficient satisfaction.
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WHAT????????
My being "satisfied" is not the driving force in my personal life of faith.
Belief can be based on reason or faith. Belief based on reason is based on evidence. Belief based on faith is belief not necessarily based on evidence.
As Martin Gardner pointed out, if it is not strongly contradicted by science or logical reasons, then you have a right to make a leap of faith if it provides sufficient satisfaction.
I actually don't completely disagree with this idea. For Reason, however, I would think of it as "that which is reasonable," not simply logic. Some people believe that God is pure Reason.
I say this because I can imagine that God doesn't want His children to remain in the dark, which is basically what Christendom wants you to do.
I believe in God because of spiritual experience, not simply because of doctrine. God is alive, and if you don't feel and hear Him at all, then ask Him to show you. And He will!
God is alive, and if you don't feel and hear Him at all, then ask Him to show you. And He will!
And for all those who've asked and received no answer, I think it is reasonable to assume that either God does not exist or isn't concerned with whether or not those people are aware of it.
Rationalism is rejected By Lord Jesus...... In a prophecy in August 1943 to a Prophet of the Lord,... Maria Valtorta...``... Jesus said ``See, Soul, of Mine. There are a few thing that I condemn as sternly as rationalism, which rapes and deconsecrate and kills Faith, Faith with a captial F to mean true Faith, absolute and royal. I condemn rationalism as an assassin hired out against Me: it is the very thing that kills Me in people heart and that has prepared and is preparing really sad times for the church and for the world......It is the seed of which many, many other poisonous doctrines have come up.... It has been the traitor that has open the doors to the enemy.... In fact it has opened the doors to satan who has never ruled as much as since rationalism began to rule....But it is said ``When the Son of Man comes he will not find Faith in the hearts,.... Consequently rationalism is doing its work and I will do mine..... Happy are those who, as they close the door to sin and on the passions, can close the doors of their secret temples in the face of science that denies;... happy are those when they live alone with the Only One who is all until the end...``Truly I tell you that I will press on My Heart the wretch which has committed a human crime, and has repented of it, as long as he has always admitted that I can do everything, but I will have a Judge`s face for those, on the grounds of arrrogantly despotic human science, deny the supernatural in the manifestation which the Father would like Me to give.``........
And for all those who've asked and received no answer, I think it is reasonable to assume that either God does not exist or isn't concerned with whether or not those people are aware of it.
You're absolutely right, Pleroo.. It's He who decides to show Himself, and we can only ask and wait..! The hope is that it's sooner and not later..!
After all, we're all in this together, and all in need..
Thanks for the correction!
And for all those who've asked and received no answer, I think it is reasonable to assume that either God does not exist or isn't concerned with whether or not those people are aware of it.
You received an answer just not like you want but how God wanted to respond.
God is alive, and if you don't feel and hear Him at all, then ask Him to show you. And He will!
The empty tomb should be sufficient.
John 20:29Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
People that are already believers but seek after a sign are liken unto an adulterous generation. Some that chooses this path will be disappointed while others will lose themselves in signs and wonders, giving themselves over to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils.
Keeping your eyes on Jesus is never a truer call than it was back in the early church days.
The problem nowadays is when people take the word of man over the word of God. Because of the word of man, people need relative present proof of God.
But history cries the greatest proof of all and that is the empty tomb because if the tomb was not empty, if there was no resurrection, then christianity would never have been born at all.
Belief can be based on reason or faith. Belief based on reason is based on evidence. Belief based on faith is belief not necessarily based on evidence.
As Martin Gardner pointed out, if it is not strongly contradicted by science or logical reasons, then you have a right to make a leap of faith if it provides sufficient satisfaction.
This is a fascinating topic.
If one were to explore augustine, aquinas, and even recent speaches of John Paul or Benedict, they would find alot to chew on.
I for one, do not find faith and reason mutually exclusive. In fact, they are synergistic forces in my salvation.
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