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The Doctrine of Election should be treated as a false one, IMO. Too fatalistic.
For the Elect, where is the incentive to live a godly life? If their salvation is guaranteed, what difference does it make how they live or what they believe? They could indulge in every sin imaginable without fear of Judgement.
For the Non-Elect, it's the same situation but inverted.
The problem with that is that those that are Elected will desire to live a Godly life...You on the other hand seem to want to earn your Salvation and Paul says by the Law no Flesh will br Saved...
God tell us not to go beyond what is written 1 Corinthians 4:6.
Scripture doesn't teach that God predestins \ elects people to hell ("a different fate)", it just doesn't. That would be using human reasoning which we are not to do. Proverbs 3:5
The teaching of election (predestination) is for the Christians comfort and reassurance. God is exactly telling us the answer in your question. God is in effect saying...
Christian .... don't let Satan throw doubt into you about your salvation.
You can know for sure that you are part of my kingdom.
That is not what Election is...Election is the Choosing of God...
There is no way around the fact that the bible teaches election. What I want to know is how do we know the difference between a true believer (elect) and those who think they are "true believers." There are many people out there who think that having an intellectual belief in god is the same as having a true (saving) belief/faith. True belief comes from being convinced of something's truth. The only way one can have true belief is via the holy spirit. The holy spirit works through the individual allowing them to hear and understand the word and become a changed (regenerated) being. You cannot just "choose" to believe in something (god) without being convinced of its truth (via holy spirit).
Many people (wrongly) think that some of the following constitutes a (saving)belief in god:
"Believing" in god because they "want" it to be true
"Believing" in god because they were "taught" to believe that way
"Believing" in god, because "how else can you explain such and such....?"
"Believing" in god because it helps to keep them more focused away from bad things (addiction, alcoholism)
"Believing" in god because it is a morally good thing to do
Praying to god
Etc
Without the holy spirit regenerating a person to bring them to faith, none of the above "counts" as having a belief/faith in god. The elect are those who are brought to a true belief/faith via the holy spirit (not of themselves) resulting in their becoming a "new" regenerated being. Many others will surprisingly find out later that they had a false (not "true") belief when god tells them to "depart, I never knew you." Narrow is the gate.....
The ones who think that they chose God are not True Believers...The ones that know that God called them and that He chose them are the True Believers...
This is man made nonsense. No payment is needed for anything. God needs nothing from us. But our imperfect consciousness is not compatible with His perfect love and needs the perfection of Christ's human consciousness. It is a resonance problem. We must achieve some harmonic of Christ's love to receive the cover of His perfection to be compatible in God's presence. All this holy and righteous mumbo jumbo is a misread and misunderstanding of this compatibility problem. The hatred nonsense is human projection of our human weaknesses onto God. There is no bad news in the Gospel. It is all good news. This is also misrepresentation. Of course there are consequences for our unloving and imperfect consciousness . . . if we do not repent in this life. We reap what we sow . . . but not more or less than we sow. I have no idea where this "won't hold it against them" business comes from. See above. Love is the answer and Christ's perfect love is the reason we need Him . . . unless we have perfect love.
The ones who think that they chose God are not True Believers...The ones that know that God called them and that He chose them are the True Believers...
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