The four Gospels agree that Jesus Christ was crucified on Passover

[rstrats]

Marlbron,


Because you're using a midnight to midnight calendar day, 6 night night times would be involved. Matthew 12:40 mentions only 3 night times.

[openmike]

Correct as the last supper " Passover meal" apparently was the evening prior to the "daytime" portion of Passover but on the "eve" of Passover at sunset one is in the beginning of Passover. He died on Passover at the very cusp of the next Sunset the following day after the last supper.

[comitatus1]

For your consideration:

(Exod 12:6 [ESV2011])
and you shall keep it until the fourteenth day of this month, when the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill their lambs at twilight.

Twilight, in the Jewish mind, is the start of a new day. Therefore, when the writer of Exodus [Moses] writes this he has in mind the START of Nisan 14 rather than the END of Nisan 14.

Let go of your Western notions of what a 'day' is and embrace the Jewish outlook.

The Passover lamb was to be killed at the start of a new day. The blood was to be taken and put on the door frame. The lamb was to be cooked, and served along with the bitter herbs and the unleavened bread. This would obvioiusly run late into the evening...but keep in mind as you think of this that in reality this is EARLY in regards to what time of the Jewish DAY it was.

So, fast forward to Jesus' time. I would submit to you that Jesus read Exodus 12 exactly the way I am reading it. [It would be better to say that the other way around, right?] Being an Expert in Torah, He would have instructed his disciples to find a lamb by the afternoon of Nisan 13, [In other words, late in the Jewish day of Nisan 13] in order that his disciples would have time to get a hold of a lamb and the other ingredients for the Passover Feast.

Keep in mind that, according to the rules for Passover in Exodus 12...rules that were never changed save for making Jerusalem the required location for Passover as found in Deuteronomy, no Priests of any kind were required. ANY Jewish man who was the head of a houselhold, could take care of killing the goat. Since the Disciples were not with their families...or didn't have any, any one of them, or any number of them at one time, were qualified under Torah to sacrifice the lamb.

So, so far I have established that when Jesus and the writers of the Synoptic Gospels used the term 'Passover', they were speaking of the opening minutes and hours of Nisan 14, which would have started at twilight, about 6pm, give or take.

So, what to make of John's account? Quite simply, the Jews were celebrating Passover on the wrong day. John, in His Gospel, characterizes the Passover this way:

(John 2:13 [ESV2011])
The Passover of the Jews was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.

(John 6:4 [ESV2011])
Now the Passover, the feast of the Jews, was at hand.

(John 11:55 [ESV2011])
Now the Passover of the Jews was at hand, and many went up from the country to Jerusalem before the Passover to purify themselves.

To me, this way of referring to the Passover, i.e. as being 'of the Jews' shows an 'us vs. them' mentality.

As in: 'we did it the right way, the Jews did it the wrong way'.

This would explain this statement:

(John 18:28 [ESV2011])
Then they led Jesus from the house of Caiaphas to the governor's headquarters. It was early morning. They themselves did not enter the governor's headquarters, so that they would not be defiled, but could eat the Passover.

The Jews were getting ready slay the lambs near the end of Nisan 14, a hour or two BEFORE twilight, and would then eat Passover on Nisan 15.

Further:

(John 19:14 [ESV2011])
Now it was the day of Preparation of the Passover. It was about the sixth hour. He said to the Jews, “Behold your King!”

The Jews were using the day to get ready to celebrate something they should have celebrated the evening before, at the beginning of the day!

Now, is there any real proof of this? No, not really, but it does have the advantage of reconciling all 4 of the Gospel stories. It also has the added benefit of making Jesus's statement about being 3 days and 3 nights in the grave absolutely consistent with what actually happened.

Chris

[granpa]

Jesus (Samson) was arrested after the Passover meal on the night of 1-15 but was executed on 3-15 which was the date of a lunar eclipse. (june 14 of 29 AD).
3-15 is grape harvest and the New wine festival. The παρα-σκευή of the passover. The day of παρα-sychar (wine preparation or wine concoction).

Gospel harmony based on John

Pilate, therefore, entered into the praetorium again, and called Jesus, and said to him, `You are the King of the Jews?'
Jesus answered, `Not an earthly king. I am a different sort of king'
Pilate, therefore, said to him, `So you are a king then'

Pilate, therefore, having heard this word, brought Jesus without -- and he sat down upon the tribunal -- to a place called, Pavement,' even though according to Hebrew gabbatha it was the day of παρα-sychar (of the passover), and as it were the sixth hour (noon), and he said to the Jews, `behold, your king!'

But the people didnt understand what this meant so Pilate put on a little show to show them what it means. Pilate knew there would be a total eclipse that night.

Jesus was crucified 3 hours later at at 3 pm.
If 3 pm was the 1st hour of the crucifixion then 8 pm was the 6th hour.
From 8 pm till 11:30 pm (june 14 of 29 AD) a total lunar eclipse came over all the land. (The moon being symbolic of God)

And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour. And the sun became Skotos (Phaeton), and the veil of the temple was rent in the midst.

When the eclipse ended Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "My God, my God, why did you forsake me?”

Pilates symbolism would have been clear to the people of the time but unfortunately in the centuries that followed the new wine festival was expunged from the Bible (replaced by Pentecost), the lunar eclipse was forgotten, and God began to be thought of as being more like the Sun than the moon.

June 14 of 29 ad was Julian day 1731815 and a tuesday.
He was in the tomb at sunrise wed.
He arose saturday morning.
When the women arrived at the tomb he had already been out for a full day

http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/JLEX/JLEX-AS.html

These are the feasts of the Lord, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
In the fourteenth day of the first month (1-14) at even is the Lord's passover.
And on the fifteenth day of the same month (1-15) is the feast of unleavened bread unto the Lord: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.

Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morning of the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the Lord.

And ye shall count unto you from the morning of the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering (1-12); seven sabbaths shall be complete: (1-19, 1-26, 2-3, 2-10, 2-17, 2-24, 3-1)
And from the morning of the seventh sabbath shall ye number 15 days (3-15); and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord.

Ye shall bring out of your habitations two wave loaves of two tenth deals; they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the firstfruits unto the Lord.
And ye shall offer with the bread seven lambs without blemish of the first year, and one young bullock, and two rams: they shall be for a burnt offering unto the Lord,

http://religion.wikia.com/wiki/At-a-...le/101

[pinacled]

Originally Posted by granpa

Jesus (Samson) was arrested after the Passover meal on the night of 1-15 but was executed on 3-15 which was the date of a lunar eclipse. (june 14 of 29 AD).
3-15 is grape harvest and the New wine festival. The παρα-σκευή of the passover. The day of παρα-sychar (wine preparation or wine concoction).

Gospel harmony based on John

Pilate, therefore, entered into the praetorium again, and called Jesus, and said to him, `You are the King of the Jews?'
Jesus answered, `Not an earthly king. I am a different sort of king'
Pilate, therefore, said to him, `So you are a king then'

Pilate, therefore, having heard this word, brought Jesus without -- and he sat down upon the tribunal -- to a place called, Pavement,' even though according to Hebrew gabbatha it was the day of παρα-sychar (of the passover), and as it were the sixth hour (noon), and he said to the Jews, `behold, your king!'

But the people didnt understand what this meant so Pilate put on a little show to show them what it means. Pilate knew there would be a total eclipse that night.

Jesus was crucified 3 hours later at at 3 pm.
If 3 pm was the 1st hour of the crucifixion then 8 pm was the 6th hour.
From 8 pm till 11:30 pm (june 14 of 29 AD) a total lunar eclipse came over all the land. (The moon being symbolic of God)

And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour. And the sun became Skotos (Phaeton), and the veil of the temple was rent in the midst.

When the eclipse ended Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "My God, my God, why did you forsake me?”

Pilates symbolism would have been clear to the people of the time but unfortunately in the centuries that followed the new wine festival was expunged from the Bible (replaced by Pentecost), the lunar eclipse was forgotten, and God began to be thought of as being more like the Sun than the moon.

June 14 of 29 ad was Julian day 1731815 and a tuesday.
He was in the tomb at sunrise wed.
He arose saturday morning.
When the women arrived at the tomb he had already been out for a full day

http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/JLEX/JLEX-AS.html

These are the feasts of the Lord, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
In the fourteenth day of the first month (1-14) at even is the Lord's passover.
And on the fifteenth day of the same month (1-15) is the feast of unleavened bread unto the Lord: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.

Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morning of the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the Lord.

And ye shall count unto you from the morning of the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering (1-12); seven sabbaths shall be complete: (1-19, 1-26, 2-3, 2-10, 2-17, 2-24, 3-1)
And from the morning of the seventh sabbath shall ye number 15 days (3-15); and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord.

Ye shall bring out of your habitations two wave loaves of two tenth deals; they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the firstfruits unto the Lord.
And ye shall offer with the bread seven lambs without blemish of the first year, and one young bullock, and two rams: they shall be for a burnt offering unto the Lord,

http://religion.wikia.com/wiki/At-a-...le/101

I say let them see.

[granpa]

them who?
see what?