Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality > Christianity
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 11-18-2012, 06:21 PM
 
63,809 posts, read 40,087,129 times
Reputation: 7871

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vizio View Post
No. He claimed to be God. He said "I am the Alpha and Omega".
You and I will never agree if you credit ANY specific interpretation of Revelation as part of Christ's Gospel, period. It is the absolute LEAST reliable, verifiable, validated, or interpretable book of the entire Bible. No need to respond. We have no common point of agreement if you use Revelation as Gospel.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 11-18-2012, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Arizona
28,956 posts, read 16,360,776 times
Reputation: 2296
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vizio View Post
No. He claimed to be God. He said "I am the Alpha and Omega".
That which is eternal has no beginning or end.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-19-2012, 07:24 AM
 
17,966 posts, read 15,969,381 times
Reputation: 1010
You are missing the point.

What Christians should FOCUS on is what did Christ's death accomplish.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-19-2012, 10:38 AM
 
30,902 posts, read 33,003,025 times
Reputation: 26919
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eusebius View Post
You are missing the point.

What Christians should FOCUS on is what did Christ's death accomplish.
That's your opinion. Mine is: if people focus on Jesus they should focus on what he did during his lifetime. To each his or her viewpoint, I guess.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-19-2012, 11:14 AM
 
17,966 posts, read 15,969,381 times
Reputation: 1010
O.K. JerZ, what did Jesus accomplish for mankind?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-19-2012, 01:10 PM
 
30,902 posts, read 33,003,025 times
Reputation: 26919
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eusebius View Post
O.K. JerZ, what did Jesus accomplish for mankind?
Well, for some of mankind, he showed people, via parables, some very basic truths. He cut through the social niceties and traditions to show people what was really important. He also showed a form of passive resistance (I believe). He gave to some people (not everyone believes this) the feeling that there really is a God and that we're not alone.

He was a philosopher, IMO, and he was a humanist. He displayed love for all different types of people despite societal taboos and mores.

He gave a politically trapped and oppressed people another way of looking at things. He helped them see something bigger. His teachings still give that today, that sense of, "Such-and-such may be bad but it's only worldly stuff. There will be an end to it. It's limited."
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-20-2012, 06:10 AM
 
2,981 posts, read 2,933,611 times
Reputation: 600
- Who are 'the gods' that God, is God of ?

"Give thanks to The God Of gods..." - Ps.136:2

"You being a man make Yourself God......
Is It Not Written In your Law I Said you are gods" ?
....If He called them gods to whom The Word 0f God came...do you say of Him
Whom The Father sanctified and sent into the world - You are blaspheming
because I said I am The Son 0f God?" - John 10:33-36

- Are we "the sons of God" ?
- Is Jesus 'The Son Of God' ?

Is The Father in Jesus and Jesus in The Father? - John 10:38

- Are we too 0ne As The Father Is IN Jesus and Jesus Is IN The Father
that we may be IN Them THAT the world may believe The Father sent Jesus?
John 17:21

- Yes, Jesus is of The One (True) God. The Son Of God.
- We are of The One (True) God. The Sons Of God.

We with our Brother Jesus are the G-gods of God.

Us being conformed to the image of Jesus The FirstBorn Among Many Brethern.
Romans. 8:29

When will your doctrine reflect Scriptures, instead of the doctrines of men?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-20-2012, 08:09 AM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
11,825 posts, read 12,493,260 times
Reputation: 1319
Q: "Jesus is God"? or "Jesus' death accomplished . . . ."? What is more important?

A:There is no seperating the two. "Jesus' death" could only accomplished" what it did because "Jesus is God"
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-20-2012, 08:22 AM
 
13,640 posts, read 24,509,987 times
Reputation: 18602
IMO, the important thing is what Jesus accomplished in his lifetime. He showed us His/our Father, the unconditional, loving, forgiving God who was not the God man created to validate all their atrocities to each other.

Jesus showed us that God is personally reachable by ourselves without any interference by man's laws and rules that separated us by honoring the creative minds of man, not God.

jmho
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-20-2012, 08:33 AM
 
17,966 posts, read 15,969,381 times
Reputation: 1010
Quote:
Originally Posted by twin.spin View Post
Q: "Jesus is God"? or "Jesus' death accomplished . . . ."? What is more important?

A:There is no seperating the two. "Jesus' death" could only accomplished" what it did because "Jesus is God"
Dear twin. Jesus' death could only accomplish what it did for mankind because "Jesus is the Son of God."

Remember, God did not send Himself into the world to save sinners. The Bible says "God sent His Son into the world to save sinners."

But the important thing is what the mission and goal was/is. God did not send His Son into the world to prove Jesus is God but to SAVE SINNERS.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality > Christianity

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top