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Old 08-28-2013, 03:12 PM
 
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Who is asking the Lord to look away?

He CREATED gay people.
He created a lot of people that have problems with many other kinds of sin--but they are not excused for the behavior that sin causes.
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Oh, and please let us know when war and violence has you shaking your finger at everyone. Let us know when you deplore Christians buying guns so they can shoot the guy who broke in to steal their big screen.

It's always the gays that brings out the Bible quotes.
How are those related to the price of tea in china? Why must you change the subject?

 
Old 08-28-2013, 03:12 PM
 
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The Word of God is what inspired the Bible(s). Homosexuality is mentioned in both.
So what is the Hebrew and Greek words used in the bible that mean homosexual?
 
Old 08-28-2013, 03:14 PM
 
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Sorry you went through such a rough time JJ. I know exactly how you feel, went through the same thing. And while I haven't completely stopped being religious, I was born and raised Jewish and somewhat converted making me a bit unique compared to your typical religious person.

But I agree, the ignorant gay haters as demonstrated on this thread make me not only want nothing to do with Christianity, it makes me despise large chunks of the human species.
I'm a Homosexuality hater that loves Gay people. So if you lumping me in that category then that is a strawman argument. Let's look at what I'm saying to the Gay person:

Me to Gay person: "You can change". "Homosexuality is a sin". "Christ does love you and desires to help you."

And I'm getting blasted for saying that.
 
Old 08-28-2013, 03:17 PM
 
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Who is asking the Lord to look away?

He CREATED gay people.


Oh, and please let us know when war and violence has you shaking your finger at everyone. Let us know when you deplore Christians buying guns so they can shoot the guy who broke in to steal their big screen.

It's always the gays that brings out the Bible quotes and the preaching.
DewDropInn, your gay also, just like me. I already shake my finger at war and violence. So I'm letting you now since you didn't already know.
 
Old 08-28-2013, 03:17 PM
 
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The Word of God is what inspired the Bible(s). Homosexuality is mentioned in both.
No, homosexuality is never mentioned in Hebrew or Greek.

וְאֶת-זָכָר--לֹא תִשְׁכַּב, מִשְׁכְּבֵי אִשָּׁה: תּוֹעֵבָה, הִוא

I don't see homosexuality mentioned there, do you?

And let me guess, you ignore the context of this verse?

כא וּמִזַּרְעֲךָ לֹא-תִתֵּן, לְהַעֲבִיר לַמֹּלֶךְ; וְלֹא תְחַלֵּל אֶת-שֵׁם
אֱלֹהֶיךָ, אֲנִי יְהוָה
 
Old 08-28-2013, 03:18 PM
 
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So I should be celibate for my entire life? Or should I enter another sham marriage and lie to a man?
Ironically, Paul specifically says both options are a no no.
 
Old 08-28-2013, 03:20 PM
 
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So what is the Hebrew and Greek words used in the bible that mean homosexual?
The problem is not with homosexual's its about homosexuality. There is no word (that I'm aware of that expressly says homosexuality NOR heterosexuality) But we have the dialogue of those words that shows the acts defined in Homosexuality as being a sin.
 
Old 08-28-2013, 03:20 PM
 
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I'm a Homosexuality hater that loves Gay people. So if you lumping me in that category then that is a strawman argument. Let's look at what I'm saying to the Gay person:

Me to Gay person: "You can change". "Homosexuality is a sin". "Christ does love you and desires to help you."

And I'm getting blasted for saying that.
I know exactly what you're saying. Hateful nonsense, that is not only based on pure ignorance, but does the very opposite of your stated goal. Your attitude is turning people away from God.

Stop it.
 
Old 08-28-2013, 03:21 PM
 
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No, homosexuality is never mentioned in Hebrew or Greek.

וְאֶת-זָכָר--לֹא תִשְׁכַּב, מִשְׁכְּבֵי אִשָּׁה: תּוֹעֵבָה, הִוא

I don't see homosexuality mentioned there, do you?

And let me guess, you ignore the context of this verse?

כא וּמִזַּרְעֲךָ לֹא-תִתֵּן, לְהַעֲבִיר לַמֹּלֶךְ; וְלֹא תְחַלֵּל אֶת-שֵׁם
אֱלֹהֶיךָ, אֲנִי יְהוָה
I don't speak Hebrew. But I have known many that do and they know not what the Spirit teaches.
 
Old 08-28-2013, 03:22 PM
 
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The problem is not with homosexual's its about homosexuality. There is no word (that I'm aware of that expressly says homosexuality NOR heterosexuality) But we have the dialogue of those words that shows the acts defined in Homosexuality as being a sin.
Those verses make absolutely no sense if they refer to homosexuality, not to mention historical evidence shows us that they weren't referring to any concept of modern day homosexuality, much less applicable to the entire population.
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