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Old 08-31-2013, 10:43 AM
 
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There are some self-professed Christians who seem to take Nostradamus as seriously as they claim to take the Bible. Or they believe in psychics. ! I think they are confused to say the least, as prophets in the Old Testament weren't trying to predict the future.
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Old 09-01-2013, 09:30 AM
 
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I just think everyone likes to kinda know the future. Even If it is just speculation. I just laugh at how after an event happens, people look and say " the bible does say the east coast will have a nuke". Well, why did they not announce it prior. It is always after. That is the same with Nostradamus books
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Old 09-01-2013, 11:03 AM
 
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There are some self-professed Christians who seem to take Nostradamus as seriously as they claim to take the Bible. Or they believe in psychics. ! I think they are confused to say the least, as prophets in the Old Testament weren't trying to predict the future.
While God has made known future events prophetically, and these are recorded in the Bible, God has withheld certain information from mankind.
Deut. 29:29 The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons forever that we may observe all the word of this law.
But there are those who in their desire to know the future and determine a course of action turn to psychics, horoscopes, diviners, Ouija boards, etc. But these practices are contrary to God's declared will.

Deut. 18:10 "There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11] or one who casts a spell, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. 12] "For whoever does these things is detestable to the LORD; and because of these detestable things the LORD your God will drive them out before you.
I suppose some might make the claim that the prohibition against the practices stated in Deut. 18:10-12 don't apply to us today, but some things are true throughout human history.

In his attempt to place man outside of God's declared will which is ever his goal, Satan has encouraged a belief in the supernatural. And the interest by many in things mystical attests to Satan's success in this area. Man has always attempted to penetrate the future by means other than God's revelation.

And sadly, there are some Christians who either in ignorance, or in willful disobedience do consult with, or put credence in the supposed predictions of psychics such as Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, or Jeane Dixon. But these would not be Christians who are growing in their spiritual life through intake and application of the Word of God.

All that God has desired to reveal about the future is recorded in His written word. The believer in the Lord Jesus Christ should be content with that.

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Old 09-01-2013, 11:23 AM
 
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An interesting fact: About 60-percent of the Bible was originally written as 'future prophecy'. Almost all, except a few End Time prophecies, have been accurately fulfilled – which is one of the amazing and unique ‘proofs’ that the Bible is indeed inspired by God … and has not been ‘un-inspired’ by men.

I've not seen many 'Christians' obsessed with Nostradamus or psychics (??) -- But, I have seen a growing interest in Revelation and End Time prophecy over the past 20-years; ... perhaps because the world's daily newspaper is looking more and more like the End Times revealed in the Bible(?).

IMO, since so much of the End Time prophecy is 'generic' (wars, rumors of wars, earthquakes, signs in the skies, etc), I think that God intends to give every generation an equal reason to believe that theirs may be the 'final generation.' The reason is neither fear or 'future revelation', but, rather, to give every person a sense of urgency to live their life with a growing sense of accountability to God.
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Old 09-01-2013, 01:17 PM
 
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What I have read is most church leaders dismiss Nostradamus, numerology, prophecies, etc.. There are some, albeit few, Christian denominations that spend inordinate time studying end time biblical prophecy. For the rank and file Christian it is mere passing curiosity or seeking something substantive rather than a belief system.
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Old 09-01-2013, 02:08 PM
 
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The major problem with "prophecies" is that they were written so vague that any one can be applied to any point in our past history, as well as any point in our future. That gives way to as many interpretations of them as there are people reading them. How many times has the end of the world been predicted since 1900, based on "prophecies"?
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Old 09-01-2013, 02:29 PM
 
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There are some self-professed Christians who seem to take Nostradamus as seriously as they claim to take the Bible. Or they believe in psychics. ! I think they are confused to say the least, as prophets in the Old Testament weren't trying to predict the future.
They do so because of crass literalism has plagued the believer for a very long time about prophecies:


the OT Jews were looking for an earthly kingdom .... they didn't get one.

Many of the NT Jews (including the disciples just prior to Jesus' ascention) were looking for an earthly kingdom rule ... they didn't get one.
Then all Millennialist's failed predictions over the last 2000 yrs ... the didn't get the right calculations \ news headlines

Some today try to be clever enough so as to be not be a pin point "date setter" but still try to be by being more vague so as they can be not accused when their scoffing of what Jesus said.
So their cleverness amounts to:
A: Millennialist's rapture occurs (Whenever That Occurs) ... some claim it being secretive
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B: 7 year trib ....... (rapture + 7)
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C: 1000 millennial rule....... ( rapture + 7 + 1000 year number)

=


The vague predicted date of Jesus' return

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Old 09-01-2013, 02:30 PM
 
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The major problem with "prophecies" is that they were written so vague that any one can be applied to any point in our past history, as well as any point in our future. That gives way to as many interpretations of them as there are people reading them. How many times has the end of the world been predicted since 1900, based on "prophecies"?
Hundreds ... and they all base it on millennialism with it's crass literalism of the OT and Rev
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Old 09-01-2013, 02:42 PM
 
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While God has made known future events prophetically, and these are recorded in the Bible, God has withheld certain information from mankind.
Deut. 29:29 The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons forever that we may observe all the word of this law.
But there are those who in their desire to know the future and determine a course of action turn to psychics, horoscopes, diviners, Ouija boards, etc. But these practices are contrary to God's declared will.

Deut. 18:10 "There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11] or one who casts a spell, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. 12] "For whoever does these things is detestable to the LORD; and because of these detestable things the LORD your God will drive them out before you.
I suppose some might make the claim that the prohibition against the practices stated in Deut. 18:10-12 don't apply to us today, but some things are true throughout human history.

In his attempt to place man outside of God's declared will which is ever his goal, Satan has encouraged a belief in the supernatural. And the interest by many in things mystical attests to Satan's success in this area. Man has always attempted to penetrate the future by means other than God's revelation.

And sadly, there are some Christians who either in ignorance, or in willful disobedience do consult with, or put credence in the supposed predictions of psychics such as Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, or Jeane Dixon. But these would not be Christians who are growing in their spiritual life through intake and application of the Word of God.

All that God has desired to reveal about the future is recorded in His written word. The believer in the Lord Jesus Christ should be content with that.
Let it be known the same mechanics used in Prayers are used in Spells.
Both some times employ rituals as well.

Also Meteorologist interprete signs! LoL
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Old 09-01-2013, 02:48 PM
 
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There are some self-professed Christians who seem to take Nostradamus as seriously as they claim to take the Bible. Or they believe in psychics. ! I think they are confused to say the least, as prophets in the Old Testament weren't trying to predict the future.
What's wrong with taking him seriously? Or at least considering the idea his predictions might be correct.

You know the Bible had to be written by a man at somed point in time?
Who are you to say Nostradamus wasn't gifted by God?

To call into question the idea of Revealed Religions is also to question your own which is a Revealed Religion.

Not all Revelations are Prophecies.


Also whose to say every prophecy in the bible is going to be correct, some times there warnings to repent or else disaster will happen to gods people.
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