The treatment of Animals in the Christian Church - I am troubled. (prayer, Jesus Christ)
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I haven't read every post, but I'm pretty sure that no one said to give up meat.
People have said that as Christians we should be mindful of how animals that are killed for food consumption are treated - in life and in slaughter.
I don't think that compassion is terribly radical, nor do I think that being compassionate to all of God's creatures is at all inconsistent with the teachings of Jesus.
I haven't read every post, but I'm pretty sure that no one said to give up meat.
People have said that as Christians we should be mindful of how animals that are killed for food consumption are treated - in life and in slaughter.
I don't think that compassion is terribly radical, nor do I think that being compassionate to all of God's creatures is at all inconsistent with the teachings of Jesus.
If you look at the OP first post, it sure looks like he's saying to give up meat.
Originally, Kosher slaughter was intended to reduce pain to the animal.
Seriously?
Denmark’s government has brought in a ban on the religious slaughter of animals for the production of halal and kosher meat, after years of campaigning from welfare activists.
The change to the law, announced last week and effective as of yesterday, has been called “anti-Semitism” by Jewish leaders and “a clear interference in religious freedom” by the non-profit group Danish Halal.
European regulations require animals to be stunned before they are slaughtered, but grants exemptions on religious grounds. For meat to be considered kosher under Jewish law or halal under Islamic law, the animal must be conscious when killed. Denmark bans kosher and halal slaughter as minister says
Does anyone see factory farming as deleterious to the earth, cruel and brutal towards animals, greedy, because pigs, for an example; do not need to be kept in gestational crates where they can not move, turn around or groom and scratch themselves?
In terms of people who questioned my views about the Christian church going connection and the "religion" of meat eating, the bible belt is also the meat belt. The barbecue belt and the obesity belt.
It isn't only in the bible belt, though.
Ham, beef and other meat oriented church suppers can be found in most parts of the country.
As a Christian, I am concerned about how this effects the animals, the earth, and our impressions on non Church attenders.
What would you do if you wanted your church to eat less meat and to become more aware about the horror inflicted upon innocent animals every day?
Does anyone see factory farming as deleterious to the earth, cruel and brutal towards animals, greedy, because pigs, for an example; do not need to be kept in gestational crates where they can not move, turn around or groom and scratch themselves?
In terms of people who questioned my views about the Christian church going connection and the "religion" of meat eating, the bible belt is also the meat belt. The barbecue belt and the obesity belt.
It isn't only in the bible belt, though.
Ham, beef and other meat oriented church suppers can be found in most parts of the country.
As a Christian, I am concerned about how this effects the animals, the earth, and our impressions on non Church attenders.
What would you do if you wanted your church to eat less meat and to become more aware about the horror inflicted upon innocent animals every day?
You could gently let people know here and there about YOUR feelings and what YOU do. You can't get anyone else to do what you want them to do, whether they are an individual or a church or whatever. You can only change yourself, not others.
What you could do, however, is maybe start a group to help make others aware of the problem and if people hear what you say and it touches a chord in them, they might then think about it more. If you come at them too strongly, your message will get lost in the emotions of having someone gnatting on them telling them what they "should" do. No one likes that.
Does anyone see factory farming as deleterious to the earth, cruel and brutal towards animals, greedy, because pigs, for an example; do not need to be kept in gestational crates where they can not move, turn around or groom and scratch themselves?
In terms of people who questioned my views about the Christian church going connection and the "religion" of meat eating, the bible belt is also the meat belt. The barbecue belt and the obesity belt.
It isn't only in the bible belt, though.
Ham, beef and other meat oriented church suppers can be found in most parts of the country.
As a Christian, I am concerned about how this effects the animals, the earth, and our impressions on non Church attenders.
What would you do if you wanted your church to eat less meat and to become more aware about the horror inflicted upon innocent animals every day?
I am more concerned about reaching people for Christ! Jesus instructed us to preach the Gospel, not to worry about animals that God gave us for food. That is not the purpose of the Church. That is something that you can do outside the church but it has no place in the church. IMHO
I would think that the torture, mutilation and murder of millions of children in this country would be of more concern than how an animal is slaughtered for food. I suppose it's a matter of priorities though.
Does anyone see factory farming as deleterious to the earth, cruel and brutal towards animals, greedy, because pigs, for an example; do not need to be kept in gestational crates where they can not move, turn around or groom and scratch themselves?
In terms of people who questioned my views about the Christian church going connection and the "religion" of meat eating, the bible belt is also the meat belt. The barbecue belt and the obesity belt.
It isn't only in the bible belt, though.
Ham, beef and other meat oriented church suppers can be found in most parts of the country.
As a Christian, I am concerned about how this effects the animals, the earth, and our impressions on non Church attenders.
What would you do if you wanted your church to eat less meat and to become more aware about the horror inflicted upon innocent animals every day?
What exactly is your main issue? It seems you go from the treatment of animals to eating less or no meat. I live in an area of the country where many raise their own, or buy whole and half beef, etc., from families. Does that meet your criteria? Would you be satisfied if I suggested everyone buy local grass-fed or grain finished beef and free range chicken?
Lastly, in 30 years of ministry I've yet to have an unbeliever say they were not interested in Christianity because we took no visible stand against the mega-meat industry.
Does anyone see factory farming as deleterious to the earth, cruel and brutal towards animals, greedy, because pigs, for an example; do not need to be kept in gestational crates where they can not move, turn around or groom and scratch themselves?
In terms of people who questioned my views about the Christian church going connection and the "religion" of meat eating, the bible belt is also the meat belt. The barbecue belt and the obesity belt.
It isn't only in the bible belt, though.
Ham, beef and other meat oriented church suppers can be found in most parts of the country.
As a Christian, I am concerned about how this effects the animals, the earth, and our impressions on non Church attenders.
What would you do if you wanted your church to eat less meat and to become more aware about the horror inflicted upon innocent animals every day?
What exactly is your main issue? It seems you go from the treatment of animals to eating less or no meat. I live in an area of the country where many raise their own, or buy whole and half beef, etc., from families. Does that meet your criteria? Would you be satisfied if I suggested everyone buy local pork, grass-fed or grain finished beef, free range chicken and wild caught fish? Or, do you want church pulpits across America to demonize Tyson, Hormel, National Beef and Cargill?
Lastly, in 30 years of ministry I've yet to have an unbeliever say they were not interested in Christianity because we took no visible stand against the mega-meat industry.
I am more concerned about reaching people for Christ! Jesus instructed us to preach the Gospel, not to worry about animals that God gave us for food. That is not the purpose of the Church. That is something that you can do outside the church but it has no place in the church. IMHO
I would think that the torture, mutilation and murder of millions of children in this country would be of more concern than how an animal is slaughtered for food. I suppose it's a matter of priorities though.
Or perhaps this is a channel through which SoulJourn's ministry is supposed to manifest itself. That's certainly not for you to decide.
Or perhaps this is a channel through which SoulJourn's ministry is supposed to manifest itself. That's certainly not for you to decide.
And that is why I did not tell them what they should do. If SoulJourn uses helping animals to reach people with the Gospel then more power to them.
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