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Best standard there is and far better than some inner revelation that we are warned may be from the adversary, not God. If that inner revelation comes first we have already rejected Scripture and exalted ourself.
it is amazing that you guys all say you believe the bible is 100% scripture, yet reject the scriptures that tell and show you it is not.
And if the inner revelation is based on Love you can be assured that it is of God, for to dwell in Love is to dwell in God and God in you.
I don't believe anyone is denying the word of God is pure and true and i think you know this as well as all the usual suspects. Jesus said MY words(not the bible) are Spirit and Life, Paul said for good reason,let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, set your affections on things above, whatsoever things are pure, lovely and of good report think upon such things, be transformed by the renewing of the mind,why ?, Because all such things are the word of God/Life.
Maybe i have biased ears in the same manner that yours are towards those of the universalists, but i cannot help but think that you all believe God would be helpless without the bible,and the hands of God are tied without a bible being around to speak and lead us in the way of life, that Christ in us,the greater one in us being led by the Spirit is an alien concept to you too. It is in the bible but have no idea of the reality of it.
Paul said the Spirit that raised Christ from the dead dwells in us, now do you not think that this same Spirit that performed such an amazing fete in that he raised Christ from the dead is not able to do something as simple as speak to the hearts of those who have been raised up into newness of life?. I actually believe if Christ in us is not making an impression upon our lives we are still dead in sin anyway, and what i mean by impression, i am not referring to learning what the bible has got to say, but that we are hearing things that are impacting our lives making us and molding us into the image of his son, the image God created us to be.
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It is strange indeed to believe that we today have to rely on the bible when we have been given Christ to indwell in us and lead us into all truth, yet the people of old did not need the bible and did not have Christ indwelling.
The problem, Finn, is that JG was misrepresenting our position again after having been told (as you have been) that individual and independent interpretation is NOT what we are talking about, but testing everything, using ALL the tools available. "Snowflakes" is cute, but it is a lie.
Snowflakes reflect light, or they would not be white as snow.
::Sigh:: Whatever you think He was predicting . . . He was NOT validating the historical validity of the Noah fable . . .He was just using it as an exemplar.
Sure He was. "As in the days of Noah..." is a reference to a real event. You know that to be true. We all know you know that. You're not fooling anyone.
::Sigh:: Whatever you think He was predicting . . . He was NOT validating the historical validity of the Noah fable . . .He was just using it as an exemplar.
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Sure He was. "As in the days of Noah..." is a reference to a real event. You know that to be true. We all know you know that. You're not fooling anyone.
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and yet Jesus spoke in parables.
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Sure he did, but not in His reference to Noah and the flood.
Noah and the flood IS a fable (possibly based in some factual regional deluge) embellished beyond all reason with magical thinking and attribution to God by ignorant primitives who thought EVERYTHING was done by God. There is no way to reason with those who would believe the unreasonable and magical as a sign of faith in God. God is no fable. God is real and there is no need for magical thinking or belief in fables to know it.
Noah and the flood IS a fable (possibly based in some factual regional deluge) embellished beyond all reason with magical thinking and attribution to God by ignorant primitives who thought EVERYTHING was done by God. There is no way to reason with those who would believe the unreasonable and magical as a sign of faith in God. God is no fable. God is real and there is no need for magical thinking or belief in fables to know it.
It is obvious Jesus did not believe the flood was just a fable.
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