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13for it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified. 14For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, 15in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them,…
One can not know "somehow he knew it was right and the way of God to love your enemies without ever having a bible." .... for the heart is evil all the time and without faith it is impossible to please God.
So what it means is that being humanistic lovey dovey has no value to God.
The person who trusts anything other than the Triune God is arrogant
You are still not answering the question. How did buddha know to love your enemy when Israel God's people were stuck in the savage belief of eye for eye ?.
So loving your enemies is humanistic lovey dovey that has no value to God ? You can't make this stuff up
Warden, what do you do with these bible passages? Do you revere them equally to other passages?
for even as in Adam all die, so also in the Christ all shall be made alive, 1 Cor 15:22
in regard to the dispensation of the fulness of the times, to bring into one the whole in the Christ, both the things in the heavens, and the things upon the earth -- in him; Eph 1:10
whom it behoveth heaven, indeed, to receive till times of a restitution of all things, of which God spake through the mouth of all His holy prophets from the age. Acts 3:21
for to vanity was the creation made subject -- not of its will, but because of Him who did subject it -- in hope, that also the creation itself shall be set free from the servitude of the corruption to the liberty of the glory of the children of God; Rom 8:20-21
because in him were the all things created, those in the heavens, and those upon the earth, those visible, and those invisible, whether thrones, whether lordships, whether principalities, whether authorities; all things through him, and for him, have been created, and himself is before all, and the all things in him have consisted. And himself is the head of the body -- the assembly -- who is a beginning, a first-born out of the dead, that he might become in all things -- himself -- first, because in him it did please all the fulness to tabernacle, and through him to reconcile the all things to himself -- having made peace through the blood of his cross -- through him, whether the things upon the earth, whether the things in the heavens. Col 1:15-20
who shall transform the body of our humiliation to its becoming conformed to the body of his glory, according to the working of his power, even to subject to himself the all things Php 3:21
for God did shut up together the whole to unbelief,that to the whole He might do kindness....because of Him, and through Him, and to Him are the all things; to Him is the glory -- to the ages. Amen. Rom 11:32, 36
He was the true Light, which doth enlighten every man, coming to the world; Jn 1:9
Turn to Me, and be saved, all ends of the earth, For I am God, and there is none else. By Myself I have sworn, Gone out from my mouth in righteousness hath a word, And it turneth not back, That to Me, bow doth every knee, every tongue swear.Is 45:22-23
(Reiterated in Rom 14:11, & Php 2:11)
who doth will all men to be saved, and to come to the full knowledge of the truth; 1 Tim 2:4
I know that you can do all things,
and that no purpose of yours can be thwarted. Job 42:2
First, you are assuming that God considers human beings to be "things," a strange concept for one who you claim only "loves." Second, the passages above make the heretical assumption that EVERYBODY is a child of God. When EVERYONE is NOT.
Some PEOPLE are ADOPTED into God's family. Strangely enough, almost inexplicably, this doctrine has been greatly neglected throughout Church history. Luther had little to say about it. Calvin neglected it almost entirely. And so it is with all of the great creeds of Christendom and Protestantism. Every one of them ignores the doctrine of adoption almost completely, except the Westminster Confession of Faith, which contains a very brief chapter on the subject.
But adoption is the final consummation, the ultimate blessing, of the Christian life. Therefore, it is a doctrine which should not be ignored.
The doctrine of adoption is also important because it is the theological point of contact with the heresy of universalism, the teaching that says every one will ultimately arrive in paradise. It utterly denies the biblical doctrine of eternal punishment.
The Bible plainly teaches that there will be those who will be forever separated from God. Jesus Christ, Himself, said: “Wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it” (Matthew 7:13-14).
But universalism teaches the “fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man,” ideas that are utterly foreign to the Scriptures.
The Bible does not say that there was one father, but two. Jesus said, “Ye are of your father the devil and his works do ye do” (John 8:44). Paul says we were “children of disobedience.” This is the state of natural man as he is born into this world—a disobedient child of the devil, under the wrath of God. One family? Not at all! We must be translated out of the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of God’s dear Son. All sons of God? Listen: “As many as received him (Christ), to them gave he power to become the sons of God...” (John 1:12). How does one become that which he already is? Of course, he cannot.
If one is ADOPTED, then all you post above is true. If one is not, they face the wrath of God. It's in understanding that there is no brotherhood between those who have been born again and those who remain in the world. Are we to treat them "brotherly?" Of course. "Kindly?" Absolutely. "With love?" Without doubt--because we want them to become a part of the family of God. His Son died so that all who would look toward Christ, commit their lives to Christ, be born-again, and provide proof of that birth with the action in their lives would be a brother or sister in the Lord.
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First, you are assuming that God considers human beings to be "things," a strange concept for one who you claim only "loves."
You certainly do major in the minor. Pick one word and focus on it, rather than on the content of all the passages I presented to you.
I believe you like Strong's Concordance, yes? Here's what it has to say about the word translated as "things"...
each, every, any, all, the whole, everyone, all things, everything
EVERYONE.THE WHOLE.
Human beings are a part of the whole of creation.
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Second, the passages above make the heretical assumption that EVERYBODY is a child of God. When EVERYONE is NOT.
Some PEOPLE are ADOPTED into God's family. Strangely enough, almost inexplicably, this doctrine has been greatly neglected throughout Church history. Luther had little to say about it. Calvin neglected it almost entirely. And so it is with all of the great creeds of Christendom and Protestantism. Every one of them ignores the doctrine of adoption almost completely, except the Westminster Confession of Faith, which contains a very brief chapter on the subject.
But adoption is the final consummation, the ultimate blessing, of the Christian life. Therefore, it is a doctrine which should not be ignored.
The doctrine of adoption is also important because it is the theological point of contact with the heresy of universalism, the teaching that says every one will ultimately arrive in paradise. It utterly denies the biblical doctrine of eternal punishment.
The Bible plainly teaches that there will be those who will be forever separated from God. Jesus Christ, Himself, said: “Wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it” (Matthew 7:13-14).
But universalism teaches the “fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man,” ideas that are utterly foreign to the Scriptures.
The Bible does not say that there was one father, but two. Jesus said, “Ye are of your father the devil and his works do ye do” (John 8:44). Paul says we were “children of disobedience.” This is the state of natural man as he is born into this world—a disobedient child of the devil, under the wrath of God. One family? Not at all! We must be translated out of the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of God’s dear Son. All sons of God? Listen: “As many as received him (Christ), to them gave he power to become the sons of God...” (John 1:12). How does one become that which he already is? Of course, he cannot.
If one is ADOPTED, then all you post above is true. If one is not, they face the wrath of God. It's in understanding that there is no brotherhood between those who have been born again and those who remain in the world. Are we to treat them "brotherly?" Of course. "Kindly?" Absolutely. "With love?" Without doubt--because we want them to become a part of the family of God. His Son died so that all who would look toward Christ, commit their lives to Christ, be born-again, and provide proof of that birth with the action in their lives would be a brother or sister in the Lord.
Long story short, you do not revere those passages equally with others. That's fine. But then you do exactly what you accuse others of. You're going to need to find your "high ground" from which to judge others somewhere else.
Acts 17:24 The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands; 25 nor is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all people life and breath and all things; 26 and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation, 27 that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28 for in Him we live and move and [t]exist, as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we also are His children.’ 29 Being then the children of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man." NASB
Yes, God is the Father of all people, even those He "hates" . God bless and peace.
Acts 17:24 The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands; 25 nor is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all people life and breath and all things; 26 and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation, 27 that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28 for in Him we live and move and [t]exist, as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we also are His children.’ 29 Being then the children of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man." NASB
Yes, God is the Father of all people, even those He "hates" . God bless and peace.
That passage has been brought to Warden's attention before. Perhaps he will pay attention to it this time.
You are still not answering the question. How did buddha know to love your enemy when Israel God's people were stuck in the savage belief of eye for eye ?.
So loving your enemies is humanistic lovey dovey that has no value to God ? You can't make this stuff up
Once again you've purposefully distorted what was being stated by ignoring this point
without faith it is impossible to please God
without faith (that's the qualifier) loving your enemies is humanistic lovey dovey that has no value to God.
Buddhism is a thief and as Martin Luther said about any false religion other than Christianity is that false religions are Satan's equivalent of a big ape ... all they know is what they mimic.
Once again you've purposefully distorted what was being stated by ignoring this point[*]without faith it is impossible to please God without faith (that's the qualifier) loving your enemies is humanistic lovey dovey that has no value to God.
What is this faith that trumps love, Twin??? Of faith, hope and agape love . . . the greatest is agape love. So "faith in WHAT" is so much more valuable than agape love????
Once again you've purposefully distorted what was being stated by ignoring this point
without faith it is impossible to please God
without faith (that's the qualifier) loving your enemies is humanistic lovey dovey that has no value to God.
Buddhism is a thief and as Martin Luther said about any false religion other than Christianity is that false religions are Satan's equivalent of a big ape ... all they know is what they mimic.
What have i distorted, the fact that buddha said love your enemies without reading it in the bible?.
Buddha said this before Jesus walked the earth, so who told him(Buddha) to love his enemies, God or the devil ?.
What is your faith in if it is not the demonstrated love of God or maybe in your case the demonstrated hate?.
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