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Ok, is there any bible believer willing to put their neck on the block and admit or deny that they believe God's justice was satisfied in the cross of Jesus Christ and whether you believe or not whether God's justice demands eternal hell or annihilation for the unbeliever.
Ok, is there any bible believer willing to put their neck on the block and admit or deny that they believe God's justice was satisfied in the cross of Jesus Christ and whether you believe or not whether God's justice demands eternal hell or annihilation for the unbeliever.
Isaiah 51:4 NRS
Listen to me, my people, and give heed to me, my nation; for a teaching will go out from me, and my justice for a light to the peoples.
If the son of man is the light and the truth but this says Gods justice is the light then does that mean they contradict or the truth is the light and the justice?
Pcamps. You know that certain people will never be forthright and honest with you. In my opinion, you should simply avoid interaction with a person who has proved over and over again that they are unwilling to speak honestly about what he believes. I think Paul referred to that as turning them over to Satan.
Thanks Jimmie.
And God's justice demands eternal hell or annihilation for the unbeliever ?.
And thanks for being open and honest about what you believe, it helps on a forum where we debate.
Pcamps. You know that certain people will never be forthright and honest with you. In my opinion, you should simply avoid interaction with a person who has proved over and over again that they are unwilling to speak honestly about what he believes. I think Paul referred to that as turning them over to Satan.
We just had an honest and open 86 page discussion about this topic (actually it is still ongoing), so don't you think it's a little early to pretend people didn't share their views about it ? Even the poll question summarizes the views "God planned it as a settlement for our sins, so that those who believe would have everlasting life".Did you see anyone say God's justice was 100% satisfied on the cross? No one said it. Most Christians, including myself, said the ransom was paid at the cross, but faith is still required to have everlasting life. That is the Christian view, so where is pcamps getting the other view he labels the "Christian view"? What he calls a Christian view is a misrepresentation of the Christian view, and that is a problem.
Stay honest my friend. Do not become a false witness.
Pcamps was asked to show who says God's justice was 100% satisfied at the cross, but he has not provided those quotes has he?
Last edited by Finn_Jarber; 08-14-2014 at 05:31 AM..
Thanks Jimmie.
And God's justice demands eternal hell or annihilation for the unbeliever ?.
And thanks for being open and honest about what you believe, it helps on a forum where we debate.
Demands? Not for me to decide. Wordplay. From my understanding, God's holiness requires separation, unless there is repentance.
Can one sin again even after the cross? Yes! I Corinthian chapter 8. It would take repenting of the heart in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ that you can overcome
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? Even the poll question summarizes the views "God planned it as a settlement for our sins, so that those who believe would have everlasting life".Did you see anyone say God's justice was 100% satisfied on the cross? No one said it. Most Christians, including myself, said the ransom was paid at the cross, but faith is still required to have everlasting life. That is the Christian view, so where is pcamps getting the other view he labels the "Christian view"? What he calls a Christian view is a misrepresentation of the Christian view, and that is a problem. 
