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Old 09-16-2014, 12:25 PM
 
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Originally Posted by jimmiej View Post
You wouldn't know about that, without the Bible.

She's using a story from the bible you have faith in to make her point. She could use other people who believe they have heard from God without need of reading a book to make her point, but you guys wouldn't give that any credence.
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Old 09-16-2014, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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According to the Bible, there is no difference.

John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.

You don't have to believe it, and I know you don't, but the poster simply restated what is said in the Bible.

As to the original post, no there is no proof that the Bible is divinely inspired, but that doesn't mean it's not true. Many things that are true cannot be proven.
If this is true, we can reword John 1:1 without changing the meaning: "In the beginning was the Bible and the Bible was with God and the Bible was God...."

Can you see a difference?
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Old 09-16-2014, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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She's using a story from the bible you have faith in to make her point. She could use other people who believe they have heard from God without need of reading a book to make her point, but you guys wouldn't give that any credence.
I don't have a problem with hearing about other people's faith. But, we wouldn't know a lot of things without Holy Scripture.
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Old 09-16-2014, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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I don't have a problem with hearing about other people's faith. But, we wouldn't know a lot of things without Holy Scripture.
True, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the question. This has been pointed out to you many times.

There is a world of difference between saying that scripture is valuable and scripture is absolute authority.
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Old 09-16-2014, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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What is the the difference between God and the Bible?
The fact that you don't know is why I'm fighting the Good Fight.
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Old 09-16-2014, 12:44 PM
 
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If God had promised a Bible, you would have a point. He promised a Spirit. You don't seem to have faith in that promise.
And how do you know that?
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Old 09-16-2014, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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True, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the question. This has been pointed out to you many times.

There is a world of difference between saying that scripture is valuable and scripture is absolute authority.
Why is it not absolute authority?
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Old 09-16-2014, 12:46 PM
 
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You're asking out of idle curiosity then? You are aware and acknowledge that your question and her answer have no bearing on her point.
I can respond to her answer however I wish.
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Old 09-16-2014, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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What is the the difference between God and the Bible?
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The fact that you don't know is why I'm fighting the Good Fight.
Please, enlighten me.
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Old 09-16-2014, 12:53 PM
 
Location: georgia
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Many consider that the Bible contains the inspired word of God.

But can this view be proven or is it held only by faith alone?

1. Rationalism holds that truth should be determined by reason and factual analysis, rather than faith, dogma, tradition or religious teaching.

2. Fideism holds that faith is necessary, and that beliefs may be held without evidence or reason, or even in conflict with evidence and reason.

Faith and rationality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is it possible that the Bible is only partially inspired and, if so, how does one determine which parts?
If you need "rational or scientific" proof, you will never believe. Faith is a matter of the heart, rational and science is a matter of the head. God is concerned with our heart.
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