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Old 11-18-2014, 05:32 PM
 
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No reason for flying reindeer either, I guess. Or chocolate-dropping bunnies.

Magic is magic.

Of course, you ignore the fact that this conversation is simply operating under the presumption of God existing. If God does not exist, then only natural events with natural causes are possible. However, and I'm sure you would agree, that if God does exist, then by definition He is supernatural and is not constrained by natural forces.

 
Old 11-18-2014, 05:43 PM
 
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Of course, you ignore the fact that this conversation is simply operating under the presumption of God existing. If God does not exist, then only natural events with natural causes are possible. However, and I'm sure you would agree, that if God does exist, then by definition He is supernatural and is not constrained by natural forces.
There is absolutely no reason whatsoever for your non-sequitur claims about God. All we have ANY evidence for is nature and what is natural. To assume our God is neither . . . Moderator cut: deleted Your preference for magical thinking and pure imagination may serve your religious purposes . . . but I doubt it has anything whatsoever to do with God. God is everything that exists . . . that includes EVERYTHING . . . i.e., nature.

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Old 11-18-2014, 11:23 PM
 
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There is absolutely no reason whatsoever for your non-sequitur claims about God. All we have ANY evidence for is nature and what is natural. To assume our God is neither . . . Moderator cut: deleted Your preference for magical thinking and pure imagination may serve your religious purposes . . . but I doubt it has anything whatsoever to do with God. God is everything that exists . . . that includes EVERYTHING . . . i.e., nature.
Spinoza huh?
 
Old 11-19-2014, 03:48 AM
 
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There exist absolutely no reason to believe that a natural process requires a god to be involved.
no more than a painting requires a pairnter to be involved!
 
Old 11-19-2014, 06:30 AM
 
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It is really difficult for me to keep up with so many conversations. This isn't the only thread I have an interest in either so, don't expect me to answer a myriad of your questions. I will however answer this one in two words: "sedimentary rock".
What about sedimentary rock? That doesn't answer the question at all. If there was truly a global flood just a few thousand years ago, there should be a significant sedimentary deposition layer found throughout the entire world that is consistent in age. It should be unmistakable, and as I say, it should be consistent everywhere you find it. And it should be very close to the surface, so we should be seeing it everywhere.

So. Where is it? Simply saying the two words "sedimentary rock" does not even begin to answer the question. How does the simple fact that such a thing as sedimentary rock exists in this world answer that question?
 
Old 11-19-2014, 06:40 AM
 
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if you know anything about sedimentary rock it does.

In fact, it is far better than saying "the bible" because sedimentary rock is in god's own handwriting. He created the earth didn't he? So the rock has his hand prints all over it.
 
Old 11-19-2014, 07:01 AM
 
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That's still no answer. Explain it, please.
 
Old 11-19-2014, 07:43 AM
 
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That's still no answer. Explain it, please.
I know a bit about sedimentary rock, I too would like an explanation. That answer was at least a little bit more explanatory as just saying "rock." But not much.
 
Old 11-19-2014, 07:51 AM
 
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There might be a reason for that, if you consider it objectively for a moment.

I'm curious about something... has any of that archaeological spade work ever uncovered the massive layer of sediment that would have been deposited over the entire Earth's surface by a worldwide flood?

If so, where is it? If not, why isn't it there? If the flood was only a few thousand years ago, that sediment layer should be literally everywhere, just a few feet below the surface in most places. It's impossible to have an ocean without leaving sediment at the bottom of it after it dries up. Show me that worldwide sediment layer, and I'll buy your flood.
It is everywhere. We here it all the time. If you open your eyes it's right there. The GRand Canyon shows the layers, it was carved out by the flood. A lot of water over a little time. We find marine fossels on mountian tops and deserts all over the earth.
 
Old 11-19-2014, 08:25 AM
 
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It is everywhere. We here it all the time. If you open your eyes it's right there. The GRand Canyon shows the layers, it was carved out by the flood. A lot of water over a little time. We find marine fossels on mountian tops and deserts all over the earth.
Actually, the Grand Canyon was "carved out" by massive electromagnetic discharge post flood.
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