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Old 11-25-2014, 10:33 AM
 
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instead those denying that there are errors in the bible
you should be asking what we can learn from those errors.

how do you know god didn't deliberately put those errors there to teach us some important lesson?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mult...ity-check_code

the existence of errors within a message does not automatically render that message useless

two-dimensional parity-check code:

Assume that the goal is to transmit the four-digit message "1234", using a two-dimensional parity scheme. First the digits of the message are arranged in a rectangular pattern:

12
34

Parity digits are then calculated by summing each column and row separately:

123
347
46

The eight-digit sequence "12334746" is the message that is actually transmitted. If any single error occurs during transmission then this error can not only be detected but can also be corrected as well. Let us suppose that the received message contained an error in the first digit. The receiver rearranges the message into the grid:

923
347
46

The receiver can see that the first row and also the first column add up incorrectly. Using this knowledge and the assumption that only one error occurred, the receiver can correct the error. In order to handle two errors, a 4-dimensional scheme would be required, at the cost of more parity digits.
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Old 11-25-2014, 10:51 AM
 
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That seems like a real far-reaching concept to suggest that the bible errors are there to teach......not possible. The errors, inconsistencies and downright blatantly unbelievable stories are just that - unbelievable and unsubstantiated. It's really hard for me to believe now that anyone could believe that book and base their whole existence upon it. The bible god is a monster and no amount of cherry-picking of scripture is going to change that fact.

At least though you are aware that the bible has errors- those who believe it is inerrant are delusional.
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Old 11-25-2014, 11:40 AM
 
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instead those denying that there are errors in the bible
you should be asking what we can learn from those errors.

how do you know god didn't deliberately put those errors there to teach us some important lesson?

How do you know what is in error and what is not?

On the other hand, if we believe that the scriptures are "god-breathed", and God doesn't make mistakes.....we know that there could not be errors.
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Old 11-25-2014, 11:53 AM
 
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God made us and we arent perfect.
As I said before, even the errors may be inspired
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Old 11-25-2014, 11:57 AM
 
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God made us and we arent perfect.
As I said before, even the errors may be inspired
Or maybe the problems with humans are attributed to sin?
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Old 11-25-2014, 02:05 PM
 
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How do you know what is in error and what is not?

On the other hand, if we believe that the scriptures are "god-breathed", and God doesn't make mistakes.....we know that there could not be errors.
How do you know what God wants you to know? Maybe he is an evil being, wanting you believe that the Bible is an infallible guide. Though you claim that God doesn't make mistakes, aren't you a fallible human being? If you are, then how can you know that you are interpreting the Bible correctly? If you claim that the Holy Spirit helps interpret it for you, how can you, as a fallible being, know that this is the Holy Spirit and not Satan?
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Old 11-25-2014, 02:15 PM
 
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How do you know what is in error and what is not?

On the other hand, if we believe that the scriptures are "god-breathed", and God doesn't make mistakes.....we know that there could not be errors.
if you have read the op you would understand how we know what is an error
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Old 11-25-2014, 02:16 PM
 
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How do you know what God wants you to know? Maybe he is an evil being, wanting you believe that the Bible is an infallible guide. Though you claim that God doesn't make mistakes, aren't you a fallible human being? If you are, then how can you know that you are interpreting the Bible correctly? If you claim that the Holy Spirit helps interpret it for you, how can you, as a fallible being, know that this is the Holy Spirit and not Satan?
We know God is good because he himself died on the cross to pay the penalty for our sins --- thereby redeeming his people.

How do we know this? He told us.

If you don't want to believe...ok. You don't have to. That's your choice.
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Old 11-25-2014, 03:13 PM
 
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We know God is good because he himself died on the cross to pay the penalty for our sins --- thereby redeeming his people.

How do we know this? He told us.

If you don't want to believe...ok. You don't have to. That's your choice.
In other words, you "just know". Muhammad also said that he was the messenger and that Jesus was just a prophet. Muslims "just know" this. So, why is your "knowledge" any more valid?
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Old 11-25-2014, 03:14 PM
 
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In other words, you "just know". Muhammad also said that he was the messenger and that Jesus was just a prophet. Muslims "just know" this. So, why is your "knowledge" any more valid?
Compare the Bible and the Koran. Do an honest comparison. There is no comparison.
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