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Old 01-11-2015, 11:35 AM
 
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We can't know how to love God or our neighbors, we cannot know how to live as Jesus did and does...unless we believe He has given us a clear, reliable, authoritative, inerrant Word to direct us. Going by feeling, going by our own definitions, going by what we think is Jesus gets a person further and further into "The Twilight Zone." That is why there are so many false religions today. Your mystical definitions of things line up very well with the popular New Age message of Emergent Churchianity, but they do not line up with the Jesus of the Bible. You will continue to be deceived until you trust the words which the Spirit of Jesus Christ inspired men to write down; and those words were kept--safe, secure and sure--and their message was faithfully translated into English in the KJV.
Of course, we can. I came from the same fundamentalist background in which you are ensnared. I believe Scripture is inspired when it is in line with the image of Jesus. You believe it is inspired when it speaks of ugliness.

The deception you preach about is your own.

The surest way to make a liberal Christian is have them read the Bible very carefully, putting parallels such as are in the synoptics side by side. Then you have to be a person to whom God has given the gift of common sense. The Pharisees knew scripture as well or better than Jesus--but they didn't understand it. Your view of inerrancy is only about a century old. Everyone spoke of inspiration for years, but "inerrancy" is a modern invention. You can google it and find out for yourself. Inerrancy came about because some people couldn't accept the scientific discoveries of today--sort of like the Catholic church and the "flat" earth approach in the late medieval times.

I'm not a church goer. I left the SBC after being licensed as a minister, studying Bible in an SBC college, and preaching in scores of churches when I saw the denomination leaving its original love of spreading Good News to accepting political viewpoints as "godly" views, and when they abandoned the idea of the "priesthood of the believer," to become a dictator of what the Bible says. I still read my Bible daily and pray nightly to find someone whom I can help with more than a prayer.

If you want to find out if you REALLY have faith, give up the idea of an inerrant bible to follow the Spirit of Christ. You will let go of an idol and pick up on what Jesus said really counts--what is in the heart.
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Old 01-11-2015, 11:41 AM
 
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God says when we first become 'born again He is given the "milk" of the Word and then has He grows in Christ/Jesus He is given the meat of the Word of God.

No one was meant to understand the Bible has a whole all at once.
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Old 01-11-2015, 11:46 AM
 
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The weaker one's faith, the more one leans on the bible.
True, our faith is not in the bible being inerrant but in the one it testifies of.
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Old 01-11-2015, 11:48 AM
 
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true, our faith is not in the bible being inerrant but in the one it testifies of.

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Old 01-11-2015, 11:53 AM
 
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God says when we first become 'born again He is given the "milk" of the Word and then has He grows in Christ/Jesus He is given the meat of the Word of God.

No one was meant to understand the Bible has a whole all at once.
Amen.... HushWhisper !!
Yes, God takes us by the hand and leads us gently in the beginning and when are hearts are ready for higher grounds He takes us deeper into the word to know what it is to know about Him and His will for our lives, amen....
We're like an onion, peeling one layer at a time as God see's fit for our lives !!

Blessings
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Old 01-11-2015, 01:06 PM
 
Location: New England
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God says when we first become 'born again He is given the "milk" of the Word and then has He grows in Christ/Jesus He is given the meat of the Word of God.

No one was meant to understand the Bible has a whole all at once.
Can anyone explain what their experience of receiving milk and meat and what both exactly are?.

I would say the milk is to be established and grounded in the Fathers love and the meat is in knowing you are loved, you learn how that love were with you are loved to shed it abroad.
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Old 01-11-2015, 01:16 PM
 
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Can anyone explain what their experience of receiving milk and meat and what both exactly are?.

I would say the milk is to be established and grounded in the Fathers love and the meat is in knowing you are loved, you learn how that love were with you are loved to shed it abroad.

It is metaphorical in nature. It's referring to *understanding* the Word of God.

Just has a baby can only drink milk and not meat - the same has understanding some of the more difficult scriptures of the Bible.

It's a *growing* process and when you grow properly, you'll end up understanding more.
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Old 01-11-2015, 01:21 PM
 
Location: New England
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It is metaphorical in nature. It's referring to *understanding* the Word of God.

Just has a baby can only drink milk and not meat - the same has understanding some of the more difficult scriptures of the Bible.

It's a *growing* process and when you grow properly, you'll end up understanding more.
That is obvious, so can you give an example of what is milk and what is meat ?
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Old 01-11-2015, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Can anyone explain what their experience of receiving milk and meat and what both exactly are?.

I would say the milk is to be established and grounded in the Fathers love and the meat is in knowing you are loved, you learn how that love were with you are loved to shed it abroad.
When babies are loved, they learn how to love.
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Old 01-11-2015, 02:13 PM
 
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Hebrews 5:12-14 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Hebrews 6:1-3 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.

I would suggest that the milk of word would be the teachings found in Hebrews 6:1,2. These doctrines are the first things one learns beginning of course with salvation.
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