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Old 02-04-2015, 12:54 PM
 
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Our Savior Himself said in John 5:[28] Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, [29] And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
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Old 02-05-2015, 02:20 PM
 
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Our Savior Himself said in John 5:[28] Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, [29] And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
And that means to you, rewards and punishments?
Then, you better be good in all that you do?

Because, it's not what you believe that matters.
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Old 02-05-2015, 03:30 PM
 
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And that means to you, rewards and punishments?
Then, you better be good in all that you do?

Because, it's not what you believe that matters.
It is not what we believe that matters, but whether or not we have the Holy Spirit indwelling in our souls.
The Apostles said in Acts 5:32 that God gives the Holy Ghost TO THOSE WHO OBEY HIM.
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Old 02-05-2015, 04:45 PM
 
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Unless you "turn from you're sins" (repent), you will NOT receive the Holy Ghost ~God.
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Old 02-05-2015, 08:05 PM
 
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Unless you "turn from you're sins" (repent), you will NOT receive the Holy Ghost ~God.
That's exactly right!
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Old 02-06-2015, 03:19 PM
 
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Being "born again" refers to growing out of the consciousness of separation; into the realm of the absolute, whereby you identify as one with god and all things. A pure conduit of unconditional love. Nothing to do with being a "born again Christian".
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Old 02-06-2015, 03:59 PM
 
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Being "born again" refers to growing out of the consciousness of separation; into the realm of the absolute, whereby you identify as one with god and all things. A pure conduit of unconditional love. Nothing to do with being a "born again Christian".
I agree with this.

Mainstream christianity if it is true to its own beliefs, must accept that being born again or born of God means a life of sinless living(that which is born of God cannot sin) if being born of Adam means being born in original sin, without the ability to do righteousness.

I am more than 100% convinced that you are not born again because you say you believe in Jesus.
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Old 02-06-2015, 04:16 PM
 
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I agree with this.
Mainstream christianity if it is true to its own beliefs, must accept that being born again or born of God means a life of sinless living(that which is born of God cannot sin) if being born of Adam means being born in original sin, without the ability to do righteousness.
I am more than 100% convinced that you are not born again because you say you believe in Jesus.
Whether it is "born again" (born from above) or "born of God" it is a conception (gennao) . . . NOT a birth. It is the beginning of a Spiritual life. It is a process of developing and maturing a Spirit sufficient to be "born again" as Spirit upon our death. That which is born of Spirit is Spirit. It is not possible to be "born again" while still alive in this body of Flesh. That which is born of Flesh is Flesh.
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Old 02-06-2015, 04:55 PM
 
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Easy to see who will be sifted where.
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Old 02-06-2015, 05:10 PM
 
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Whether it is "born again" (born from above) or "born of God" it is a conception (gennao) . . . NOT a birth. It is the beginning of a Spiritual life. It is a process of developing and maturing a Spirit sufficient to be "born again" as Spirit upon our death. That which is born of Spirit is Spirit. It is not possible to be "born again" while still alive in this body of Flesh. That which is born of Flesh is Flesh.
Yes, i understand what you are saying Mystic.
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