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You are not listening, I KNOW in reality that there is something within me that bares witness to that which is God, and i am not talking about bible doctrine, but that which is Life. When i realized this the chains of fundamentalism fell off of me, i was able to see and hear at last.
I've read your post, and apparently I don't understand either. Would you mind explaining what you meant by this?:
But yes, it is possible that in the spiritual sense, the human condition and position is akin to being in an insane asylum where no one but yourself is able to cure your insanity and part of that process involves ditching the dualistic tendency to view things as 'good' and 'evil' (and choosing which 'side' one will take) and adopting a more sane understanding of conscious experience apart from such thinking.
It sounds like you're saying we don't need to make a choice to do good rather than evil. I might use the terms 'loving' vs. 'non-loving' rather than good/evil, but I still think there is a choice to be made. What is the more "sane understanding" in your view?
We were perfectly fine calling love "love." Why do we need a new word for love?
Don't ya know nowadays we can make words mean anything we want them to mean so no one understands anything...It's like the yellow traffic light, some think it means hurry through because the light is about to change to red and other think it mean slow down and prepare to stop because the light is going to turn red, however, who is it that sets the definition for the yellow traffic light?...
So "God" is just another word for "love"? We were perfectly fine calling love "love." Why do we need a new word for love?
No. God means God and love means love. But there are 2 different ways to understand the phrase "God is love" in my opinion. Only the first one is really relevant to the Christian forum:
God is a sentient being, the foundational nature of whom is love.
I've read your post, and apparently I don't understand either. Would you mind explaining what you meant by this?:
But yes, it is possible that in the spiritual sense, the human condition and position is akin to being in an insane asylum where no one but yourself is able to cure your insanity and part of that process involves ditching the dualistic tendency to view things as 'good' and 'evil' (and choosing which 'side' one will take) and adopting a more sane understanding of conscious experience apart from such thinking.
It sounds like you're saying we don't need to make a choice to do good rather than evil. I might use the terms 'loving' vs. 'non-loving' rather than good/evil, but I still think there is a choice to be made. What is the more "sane understanding" in your view?
Okay you need to tak the whole post in context as that will help you understand - it is a bit like what Rodger says here in this video...
What I am saying is that...well what I said already...
It is in the not knowing where all the problem of humanity can be sourced.
We think we know. We believe we know. We are told what we know.
Okay you need to tak the whole post in context as that will help you understand - it is a bit like what Rodger says here in this video...
What I am saying is that...well what I said already...
It is in the not knowing where all the problem of humanity can be sourced.
We think we know. We believe we know. We are told what we know.
So, the dualism of which you are speaking is thinking of yourself (and those like you) as good, and those individuals and/or groups that you designate as "the other" as bad?
I don't disagree with that. I guess it was your use of the word "things" that threw me off:
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Satan is a metaphor and so is God.
The idea might be for humans to desist with the eternal looped drive of thinking they 'know good and evil' when they so obviously do not.
It is in the not knowing where all the problem of humanity can be sourced.
Understanding how the dualism thinking process and and action propels the emotions 'this way and that' and examining the impacts of such behaviors could go a long way in healing the beast...
But yes, it is possible that in the spiritual sense, the human condition and position is akin to being in an insane asylum where no one but yourself is able to cure your insanity and part of that process involves ditchingthe dualistic tendency to view things as 'good' and 'evil' (and choosing which 'side' one will take) and adopting a more sane understanding of conscious experience apart from such thinking.
A bit like graduating, only more akin to healing - being cured of affliction.
The physical universe and earth = a place where insane spirits must go in order to have the opportunity to be cured of their insanity...or stay in that zone until they do.
I do believe there are good and evil (loving and non-loving) ways of thinking and being in any given situation. Learning what's what and making a choice to follow the loving path is, aisi, what cures our affliction.
So, the dualism of which you are speaking is thinking of yourself (and those like you) as good, and those individuals and/or groups that you designate as "the other" as bad?
Yes. The definition of 'good' and 'evil' is decided, not on what is actually known to be 'good' or 'evil' but on what is believed to be 'good' and 'evil'.
One could argue that anyone proclaiming what 'good' or 'evil' is who does not know but believes, is under the 'spirit' of evil (in this case choosing to remain ignorant for the sake of keeping belief = being evil)
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I don't disagree with that. I guess it was your use of the word "things" that threw me off:
I use the word 'things' to describe any thing which is a thing.
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I do believe there are good and evil (loving and non-loving) ways of thinking and being in any given situation.
Well, for example, [hypothetical] someone murders your family in cold blood, is caught and charged and eventually found guilty due to overwhelming evidence and given the death penalty.
You are devastated by the actions of the murderer. You have lost your loved ones to this act of evil.
On the day of the murderers execution, you get a front row seat and when the deed has been done, you feel good.
Q: Is your feeling good and act of evil?
If so (or if not) why?
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Learning what's what and making a choice to follow the loving path is, aisi, what cures our affliction.
The affliction cured means it is unnecessary to be reincarnated back into the physical universe as a human being on a planet.
As I said: "God" and "Satan" are metaphors.
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