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Originally, separation of church and state was intended to keep the gov't from interfering with the church. Our liberal supreme court and politicians have changed the meaning, however- and most people are too apathetic or ignorant to realize it or care. I love what America STOOD for- not what it stands for now. Your enlightenment is not neccessary.
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Originally Posted by Wardendresden
And where has the government interfered with your CHURCH. You have the right to practice bigotry behind your church doors. When you come out from behind them, freedom loving people have the right to demand you live under the Constitution which you obviously despise.
Just bringing it on!
Amen Warden! Bigots don't seem to realize that it is NOT their beliefs that are the problem . . . it is the judging of OTHERS against their beliefs, treating others badly because of their beliefs, wanting society to restrict others because of their beliefs and just generally butting into other people's business using their beliefs that are the REAL problem. Their beliefs are fine as long as they keep them between themselves and their God.
I'm not saying homosexuality is a choice. I'm saying that I think there could be more (through science no less!) to what causes someone to develop homosexual tendencies than just "they were born that way." I don't think someone who's gay can just "shut it off" either, that's ridiculous. I am however saying that through the power of the Holy Spirit, someone who chooses to live for God and to please God can suppress their homosexual tendencies and still live a full, rewarding life free of unnatural loneliness or grief. Christians believe humans were created to serve and glorify God, and I don't think we'll ever be truly happy unless we humble ourselves to that purpose.
Even if we truly are born as homosexuals, I still think that someone who's saved and has the Holy Spirit within them has the capability of resisting sin. On our own we're incapable, but through God we have the strength to resist sin and live according to his purposes. God can do anything! In the Bible, Paul talks about sexual sin as being destructive to our bodies - the earthly temples of God's Holy Spirit. That's kind of a big deal for someone who's a follower of Christ. I disrespected God for many years by having sex outside of marriage and by succumbing to porn addiction. Although I still struggle with the latter, I make every effort to resist sin and follow Christ, whereas a homosexual person who isn't convicted of their sin, or doesn't believe it's a sin, is continually defying God by refusing to acknowledge their sinfulness. That's also kind of a big deal.
You may not acknowledge sin, or follow Christ, and if not then I don't hold you to the same standards. But if you do, please consider what I've said, lengthy testament or not.
Sin is a religious concept and it is a very arbitrary one because anything can be called a sin, no matter how good or bad and action is, anything can be called a sin. You also don't have the evidence and/or certainty that those premises really come from a god and all you are left with is believing despite the fact that you don't have any proof that those premises came or a god. Believing something when there is no proof of it is only convincing yourself of something.
Wearing clothes made of two fabrics is a sin...
Morality, on the other hand, is a better concept because it requires examination of cause and effect, how an action positively, negatively or neither of them affects something, someone of a whole community.
Morality can be questioned when a premise is proven to have a negative outcome and it can be reformed; sin cannot be questioned because the word of god cannot be questioned.
I thought but this for a bit. The answer may be dependent on if you plan on staying friends. If yes then go if no the stay away . I do not see how you could continue to stay friends if the biggest day in your life was too sinful for you to witness. This day is her day not your's.
When I got married an aunt that I did not like much anyway would not come to my wedding because she thought it would be a bad influence for her children to see a Jewish boy getting married in a church. Years later she told my mother it was a big mistake on her part. Go or stay but how will feel about your decision 5 or 10 years down the road?
................. Go or stay but how will feel about your decision 5 or 10 years down the road?
I doubt this friendship will go much further. In five years, the OP will be that former co-worker, what's her name. That's is why the question about attending the wedding is a bit self-important.
People generally allow unsupported relationships fade.
I doubt this friendship will go much further. In five years, the OP will be that former co-worker, what's her name. That's is why the question about attending the wedding is a bit self-important.
People generally allow unsupported relationships fade.
I cannot see the friendship lasting any time without her attending but that is her choice to make.
Dolphins and their many bisexual members forming same-sex couples for life.
Interestingly enough, dolphins have a LANGUAGE and actually speak with each other as we do. We haven't managed to translate it yet, but when we do, we'll be able to talk to them, too.
NEVER ONCE have I ever observed a male animal that was gay.
Maybe animals have more morals than humans.
Well, let me correct that problem in perception with a coupe of videos including the King of the Jungle. The first is a trio of male Lions. Hang in there to near the end, when the lion laying down gets up---it's a MALE, and a younger one at that. They don't call their groups a "Pride" for no reason!
Or how about the largest land animal?
And plenty of other animals practice homosexuality as well.
Human beings aren't even the MOST gay animal in the world.
See how you're preconceived notions can be dispelled with research?
I think this also says something about, dare I say it? EVOLUTION!!!
I do wonder when all those animals LEARNED or CHOSE to be gay!
Last edited by Wardendresden; 04-04-2015 at 01:05 PM..
Originally, separation of church and state was intended to keep the gov't from interfering with the church. Our liberal supreme court and politicians have changed the meaning, however- and most people are too apathetic or ignorant to realize it or care. I love what America STOOD for- not what it stands for now. Your enlightenment is not neccessary.
You got a great answer from another poster, so there really isn't much to add, except you still probably don't get it.
You seem to think that laws should be made in accordance to your personal religious beliefs. That is not democracy nor is it freedom. You are actually against some of the principals the country was founded on.
Since most pro gay marriage posters say your attendance is an approval and a congratulatory message to the gay couple, you definitely should not go unless you approve of gay marriage.
If you personally do not approve, stay home as the gay community have put too many stipulations/expectations on the reason you attended.
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