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Old 04-05-2015, 11:46 PM
 
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Same-sex rape has nothing to do with homosexuality.

Homosexuality: sexual, emotional and romantic attraction to the same sex.

Same-sex rape is not about sexual, emotional or romantic attraction; it is about exerting power and dominance on others against their will. If some men rape other men in prison it is so to exert their power and dominance on other men. The thrill is in feeling superior and powerful.

If you want to put it in biblical terms, Sodom and Gomorrah was not about homosexuality but about gang-rape. In ancient times (and I guess sometimes that still occurs today) a way to exert domination was through gang-rape. this also is done to humiliate the enemy. What the men in the Sodom and Gomorrah story wanted to do was to humiliate the angels through rape.

Generally, men who rape other men are heterosexual men. Obviously, it is not your average heterosexual man who would do this since most don't feel the need to do such things.

Discussing these topics is very delicate because many times there are homophobic and cultural biases and conflations regarding homosexuality.

 
Old 04-06-2015, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Discussing these topics is very delicate because many times there are homophobic and cultural biases and conflations regarding homosexuality.

What exactly is a Homophobic?

A person who believes homosexuality is a sin and against the nature of heaven and Earth?

I am a man, and I have been with another man but I saw it as sin when it happened and I see it as sin now, and I repented of my sin.

But because I see it as sin, I am a homophobic aren't I?
 
Old 04-06-2015, 12:06 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Same-sex rape has nothing to do with homosexuality.

Homosexuality: sexual, emotional and romantic attraction to the same sex.

Same-sex rape is not about sexual, emotional or romantic attraction; it is about exerting power and dominance on others against their will. If some men rape other men in prison it is so to exert their power and dominance on other men. The thrill is in feeling superior and powerful.

If you want to put it in biblical terms, Sodom and Gomorrah was not about homosexuality but about gang-rape. In ancient times (and I guess sometimes that still occurs today) a way to exert domination was through gang-rape. this also is done to humiliate the enemy. What the men in the Sodom and Gomorrah story wanted to do was to humiliate the angels through rape.

Generally, men who rape other men are heterosexual men. Obviously, it is not your average heterosexual man who would do this since most don't feel the need to do such things.

Discussing these topics is very delicate because many times there are homophobic and cultural biases and conflations regarding homosexuality.
I agree. But it is illustrative of a proper understanding of the entire Sodom-Gomorrah story in Genesis, a foundation among fundamentalists who stand against gay rights and gay marriage. The entire male population of Sodom could not have been gay when they approached Lot's home. They were attempting to do what men do in our own prison systems--dominate the "stranger" that comes through the doors. THAT was the sin of Sodom. Nothing to do with homosexuality at all.

But it is simply astonishing to see ignorant posts about women turning "butch" because of their time in prison. It exhibits a lack of perception, a failure to research, and a heart hardened against a group of people simply because of how they were born. And the information I posted indicates the hetero men committing these rapes do not see themselves as "homosexual." They see themselves as "in control."

No Christian should accept such callous comments from a poster without challenging both their validity and their honesty.
 
Old 04-06-2015, 02:50 AM
 
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What exactly is a Homophobic?

A person who believes homosexuality is a sin and against the nature of heaven and Earth?

I am a man, and I have been with another man but I saw it as sin when it happened and I see it as sin now, and I repented of my sin.

But because I see it as sin, I am a homophobic aren't I?
Homophobia is kind of subtle in certain statements.
The story of Sodom and Gomorrah is very much used to vilify homosexual men labelling them as predators and rapists. Even though the story is not about homosexuality but about gang-rape the story is used for such act of vilification of homosexual men.

What you believe or not has no relevance. Unless there is evidence of anything you believe it doesn't matter at all.

You are homophobic if you deem LGBT people less than heterosexual people, if you have hate in your heartand if you think and or fight to oppress and eny right to LGBT people.

Nothing good comes from homophobia so no one in his right mind should feel proud of being one.
 
Old 04-06-2015, 02:59 AM
 
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I agree. But it is illustrative of a proper understanding of the entire Sodom-Gomorrah story in Genesis, a foundation among fundamentalists who stand against gay rights and gay marriage. The entire male population of Sodom could not have been gay when they approached Lot's home. They were attempting to do what men do in our own prison systems--dominate the "stranger" that comes through the doors. THAT was the sin of Sodom. Nothing to do with homosexuality at all.

But it is simply astonishing to see ignorant posts about women turning "butch" because of their time in prison. It exhibits a lack of perception, a failure to research, and a heart hardened against a group of people simply because of how they were born. And the information I posted indicates the hetero men committing these rapes do not see themselves as "homosexual." They see themselves as "in control."

No Christian should accept such callous comments from a poster without challenging both their validity and their honesty.
Whatever helps vilify LGBT people works for fundamentalists.
 
Old 04-06-2015, 07:23 AM
 
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It will come to pass.

These people, and 140 others, were murdered this week in Kenya just because they were Christians.

Edit: Removed photo. It may be too graphic for some.
It will only escalate in time. If "Christians" had murdered muslims, there would be a MUCH BIGGER uproar.
 
Old 04-06-2015, 07:25 AM
 
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What's got your undies in a bunch is that today separation of church and state prevents you from imposing your bigotry on everybody else. If you don't like it here, then leave. You and your bigotry won't be missed.
Your mind reading skills are deplorable.
 
Old 04-06-2015, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It will only escalate in time. If "Christians" had murdered muslims, there would be a MUCH BIGGER uproar.
True. The media would make sure of it.
 
Old 04-06-2015, 02:41 PM
 
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It will only escalate in time. If "Christians" had murdered muslims, there would be a MUCH BIGGER uproar.
You mean like Christians killing Muslims in Central Africa Republic last year? Not sure how the fact that not only do Muslims kill Christian but Christians kill Muslims influences a person on whether the attend or not a friend's wedding.
 
Old 04-06-2015, 08:46 PM
 
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I have a friend who I have known for years, but they turned to the gay lifestyle a few years ago and is now getting married. I dont support the LGBT lifestyle and even though they are a good friend, its still a surprise to me and I dont agree of her new lifestyle.

Would it be wrong as a Christian to attend a gay wedding supporting her as a friend or should I just stay away from it all together?
As a friend, should you attend your friend's wedding?
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