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Old 04-19-2015, 08:49 PM
 
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Understood and I grok that reasoning about social change methods. I do prefer my contacts with God to be devoid of conflict and strife, tho. Hey, I still love you, dear sister . . . no matter what.
You too, my friend. Understood.

I've attended services, including Mass, for various "causes". No conflict or strife. Just a lot of pious people gathered together. A fair number of people working for social change are pacifists who wouldn't think of raising a ruckus in church or anywhere else.

Bingo night, on the other hand.....
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Old 04-19-2015, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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I guess we have different ideas about the purpose of worship, nate. If it is not for us to attain a state closer to God . . . I see no purpose for it at all. YMMV.
Yes, we do. I see worship, whether formal or consciousness of God's presence in our lives as expression of that closeness rather than an attemptto attain it.
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Old 04-19-2015, 09:12 PM
 
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She had two choices:

1. Speak the truth
2. Lie
The truth is, the pizzeria in question doesn't even deliver, much less cater. THAT is what she could have ans should have said. Instead, she WENT OUT OF HER WAY to disparage homosexuals. That was stupid.

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Which do you think honors God more?
Not concerned with what your gawd thinks, nor does it have any bearing on our laws. If you don't like it, perhaps you should try Uganda, they have laws right up your alley.
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Old 04-19-2015, 09:25 PM
 
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Marriage had always been between a man and woman.
Appeal to tradition. Logical fallacy. Not to mention Unconstitutional. Sorry. You're going to be VERY disappointed come June.

If it makes you feel any better, we've had legal same sex marriage in my State for about 4 months, and if I didn't know it because the News told me, I would not have noticed. Though making you feel better is not really on my agenda, I love watching people like you lose your minds over this.
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Old 04-19-2015, 09:28 PM
 
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........NEVER.......going to happen !
You're probably right about that. But 100 years from now, members of your "church" will be as common as KKK members are today.
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Old 04-20-2015, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Not concerned with what your gawd thinks, nor does it have any bearing on our laws. If you don't like it, perhaps you should try Uganda, they have laws right up your alley.
I know you don't care about what God thinks, but even you know the answer to the question, although you avoid saying it.

Lying never honors God, or people.

Unfortunately the LGBT community will not tolerate the truth, so you can only shut up or lie. That's their demand for Christians: Shut up, or lie.

Intolerant? Absolutely? Mistreatment? Definitely. Bigotry? Yep.
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Old 04-20-2015, 08:26 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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I know you don't care about what God thinks, but even you know the answer to the question, although you avoid saying it.

Lying never honors God, or people.

Unfortunately the LGBT community will not tolerate the truth, so you can only shut up or lie. That's their demand for Christians: Shut up, or lie.

Intolerant? Absolutely? Mistreatment? Definitely. Bigotry? Yep.
Again, I know it s hard to hear the truth, but time and again the "demand" has been EQUALITY...the opportuntiy to do everything that everyone else has the RIGHT to do--no more, and certainly never LESS...

It becomes INTOLERANCE, MISTREATMENT and BIGOTRY when others take actions or promote actions to prevent EQUALITY from being applied to everyone..
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Old 04-20-2015, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I know you don't care about what God thinks, but even you know the answer to the question, although you avoid saying it.

Lying never honors God, or people.

Unfortunately the LGBT community will not tolerate the truth, so you can only shut up or lie. That's their demand for Christians: Shut up, or lie.

Intolerant? Absolutely? Mistreatment? Definitely. Bigotry? Yep.
Nope, Christians may SAY whatever they wish, but when they ACT in a discriminatory fashion they are going to be called legally for it.

Just as you Chick-fil-a Christians have a right to frequent homophobic establishments, LGBT folks, and others who stand with them can publicly DENOUNCE such operations, including Pizza establishments, for being intolerant and prideful of their Godless bigotry.

More threats have been issued from pulpits in the name of God to kill or imprison LGBT people than have ever been heard for LGBT folks about christians businesses. But we do have a right to boycott such businesses and states. Just call it our "religion."

Conveniently still ignored is my previous post of a Lesbian woman in SUPPORT of your view to discriminate and sending money to the owner of the pizzeria. I wonder when a fundamentalist will start sending money to Soulforce, the non-violent LGBT group that protests events promoting bigotry against them?

Close-minded, refusal to review facts, self-righteous, judgmental, attempting to impact the secular United States with ungodly religious views, the fundamentalist lifestyle is an ongoing attempt to dominate the lives of others while crying, "poor is me, I can't practice my religion by interfering with the rights of others."

Get over it. Find a new group to persecute. You'll never be happy without one.
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Old 04-20-2015, 09:23 AM
 
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You are admitting you will attack someone for honoring their God. Unfortunately your team also threatened to murder her for it.

Are you ready to prove I threatened anyone? Where is the proof this woman is not lying about these alleged threats other than her word? The delicate flower diesel mechanic said he was threatened, too.
All without proof.

I do not threaten. I do not lie. I act. That is the difference. I organize. I boycott. I use social media.
I have been known to make awesome signage. I use the law, and respect the law.

God does not allow my silence on this matter. She was not honoring God.
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Old 04-20-2015, 09:25 AM
 
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You're probably right about that. But 100 years from now, members of your "church" will be as common as KKK members are today.
The Catholic church 100 years from now will not be performing gay marriage, will not be condoning abortion , and will certainly have 100,000 times the membership of the KKK.

your wish/desire will not come true.
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