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Old 04-12-2015, 11:22 AM
 
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Indeed. Attacking children of God for their desire to honor God shows the bitter fruit of anger.

But, it's ok because:

"If you are reviled for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you."
I'm a child of God and a Christian, I shall now consider myself blessed every time a fundamentalist denounces and attacks me for supporting the LGBT community. I'm already feeling all tingly!
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Old 04-12-2015, 11:22 AM
 
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Indeed. Attacking children of God for their desire to honor God shows the bitter fruit of anger.

But, it's ok because:

"If you are reviled for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you."

You are correct. The LGBT community are children of God, too, and you should stop marginalizing, and oppressing them by denying them the same civil rights you and I enjoy.

It is not okay. They are reviled in the name of Christ. The spirit has moved them and they are doing God's will.
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Old 04-12-2015, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Indeed. Attacking children of God for their desire to honor God shows the bitter fruit of anger.

But, it's ok because:

"If you are reviled for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you."
How much more special are you, if you consider yourself a sinner?
Are you not like those who you claim to be persecuting you?
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Old 04-12-2015, 11:26 AM
 
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You are correct. The LGBT community are children of God, too, and you should stop marginalizing, and oppressing them by denying them the same civil rights you and I enjoy.
Indeed they are! They are much-loved children of God. I'm gonna pass the word that they are blessed every time a fundamentalist denies them a cake or a pizza or otherwise bullies them.
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Old 04-12-2015, 11:32 AM
 
Location: New England
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Let's get fundamentalists to the heart of the bigotry. In the following scenarios they will prove themselves either cowards by not replying, bigots by responding in the affirmative, or hypocritical by responding in the negative. In other words, here is their catch 22.

1. I am an emergency room trauma physician in a private city hospital when a young male arrives at the hospital critically beaten. His friend says a group of men beat him because he is homosexual. I refuse to provide him care because he is an abomination in God's sight.
I have acted on my own definition of religious freedom, and should be free to do so. Yes or no?
(This could be the same in a privately run "Emergency Care" facility.)


2. I am a bus driver for a city bus line. I see two men kiss at a bus stop and then one tries to board my bus. I tell him he can't board because he is gay and my religious freedom protects me from allowing him to board.
Correct? Yes or no?


3. I have a large clothing store and advertise openly, without restriction, for people to shop at my store. Two men holding hands come into my store, they "look" gay and try to buy some of my clothing. I refuse citing my religious freedom to not interact with homosexuals. I am within my "rights" even if I did not advertise that "we proudly serve the non-LGBT community." Correct? Yes or no?


When you state that SOME of these situations may be "public," please remember marriage is public. It has nothing to do with any church service anywhere in the United States. You simply want to foist a religious view on public life.
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Old 04-12-2015, 11:34 AM
 
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Do they also refuse to serve weddings that are celebrated under other religions such as islam, buddhism, etc?
If you serve them you are condoning the promotion of other deities, right?

Do they ask them first what god they follow or not?
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Old 04-12-2015, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Florida
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You are correct. The LGBT community are children of God, too, and you should stop marginalizing, and oppressing them by denying them the same civil rights you and I enjoy.
They can be children of God if they want to, but many reject Him and prefer to remain children of the devil. The door is open to everyone, including the gays. All they need to do it accept the invitation and stop throwing stones.

Have you heard the parable of the wedding? All were invited, but many declined the invitation, and some even killed the people extending the invitation.

"If you are reviled for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you."
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Old 04-12-2015, 11:43 AM
 
Location: New England
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Do they also refuse to serve weddings that are celebrated under other religions such as islam, buddhism, etc?
If you serve them you are condoning the promotion of other deities, right?

Do they ask them first what god they follow or not?
Yes, this highlights the hypocrisy and further proves that the LGBT folk are being singled out.

The truth is for the best part, they have no idea who they are catering for, and if they want to hide behind the lie that they are honoring God, they really should not be serving anyone other than those who are like minded as themselves.
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Old 04-12-2015, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Do they also refuse to serve weddings that are celebrated under other religions such as islam, buddhism, etc?
If you serve them you are condoning the promotion of other deities, right?

Do they ask them first what god they follow or not?
The pizzeria owner didnt ask anything, they asked him/her, and then attacked him/her because they could not tolerate his/her answer. Talk about intolerance...

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Old 04-12-2015, 12:17 PM
 
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The pizzeria owner didnt ask anything, they asked him/her, and then attacked him/her because they could not tolerate his/her answer. Talk about intolerance...
Refusing to serve LGBT people because of religious beliefs is simply wrong and such attitute should not be tolerated.

But if you are going to open a business and there are certain people you will not want to serve because of your opinion (religion) then you should ask cutomers a few quest lest you will be promoting opinions (religions) and actions you don't condone such as weddings based on other religions, divorced people, etc.
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