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Old 04-06-2015, 09:03 AM
 
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It's Equal Opportunity in the Bigot Club. Prejudice is, unfortunately, not limited to a particular religion or creed.
If disagreeing with someone makes one a bigot, then everyone is a bigot. I believe we are all entitled to an opinion, and should not be accused of hatred for not agreeing with someone else. Having an opinion is not intolerant, but attacking those who do not agree certainly is intolerant.
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Old 04-06-2015, 09:23 AM
 
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If disagreeing with someone makes one a bigot, then everyone is a bigot. I believe we are all entitled to an opinion, and should not be accused of hatred for not agreeing with someone else. Having an opinion is not intolerant, but attacking those who do not agree certainly is intolerant.
Your opinion is fine, as long as it does not interfere with the civil rights of others in the community. If you do not like your LGBT neighbor, then do not talk to them.

What you cannot do is prevent them from accessing the same services in the community you have access to. The LGBT community want to raise their children, get married, and live their lives as you live your life. The solution is simple. Move over.


You don't like civil disobedience at your church? Make room in the tent. Move over.
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Old 04-06-2015, 10:02 PM
 
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If disagreeing with someone makes one a bigot, then everyone is a bigot. I believe we are all entitled to an opinion, and should not be accused of hatred for not agreeing with someone else. Having an opinion is not intolerant, but attacking those who do not agree certainly is intolerant.
Disagreeing with someone does not make one a bigot, Finn. A bigot is someone who for some unknown reason obsesses about, discriminates against, rants about and socially overreacts to homosexuals who do NOT harm them in ANY WAY whatsoever!! You would think they are talking about mass murderers or something. It boggles the mind!
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Old 04-07-2015, 05:10 AM
 
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Disagreeing with someone does not make one a bigot, Finn. A bigot is someone who for some unknown reason obsesses about, discriminates against, rants about and socially overreacts to homosexuals who do NOT harm them in ANY WAY whatsoever!! You would think they are talking about mass murderers or something. It boggles the mind!
Bigot: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

Most people on this board are highly intolerant of Christians views, and they are in fact obsessed with opposing those views. Most go are far as calling people holding those views bigoted. It goes both ways. That makes them bigots. The pizzeria owner did not overreact, she did rant and she was not obsessed with the subject. She was minding her own business, and someone asked her what she would do in a given situation, and she is being attacked because she said she would do what she felt was in line with her understanding of the Christian faith. THAT'S bigotry, and extreme intolerance of her views. The anti Christian rants on this board are bigoted.
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Old 04-07-2015, 05:17 AM
 
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Your opinion is fine, as long as it does not interfere with the civil rights of others in the community.
Yours is fine too as long as it does not interfere with other people right to exercise their religion.

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You don't like civil disobedience at your church? Make room in the tent. Move over.
That would certainly qualify as interference.

See the problem?

See the hypocrisy?
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Old 04-07-2015, 06:42 AM
 
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Yours is fine too as long as it does not interfere with other people right to exercise their religion.

That would certainly qualify as interference.

See the problem?

See the hypocrisy?
No more than flipping the tables on the money changers?
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Old 04-07-2015, 06:57 AM
 
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No more than flipping the tables on the money changers?
He flipped the tables because people used the house of God for purposes other than worshipping God. Do you think He would have supported a gay protest in the temple? No, he would have flipped their tables too for the same reason. Ironically this is exactly what the other poster is talking about doing (political protest in churches). Jesus disapproved then, and he would disapprove today.
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Old 04-07-2015, 07:19 AM
 
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Yours is fine too as long as it does not interfere with other people right to exercise their religion.
Your right to exercise your religion does not include denying others their rights.
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Old 04-07-2015, 07:40 AM
 
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He flipped the tables because people used the house of God for purposes other than worshipping God. Do you think He would have supported a gay protest in the temple? No, he would have flipped their tables too for the same reason. Ironically this is exactly what the other poster is talking about doing (political protest in churches). Jesus disapproved then, and he would disapprove today.
NO, Jesus flipped the tables because the vendors were selling animals and what-nots for sacrifice INFLATED PRICES because many people had traveled a great distance and had nothing to offer and the vendors took advantage of the peoples' situation....

Also, according to the Law, two doves or pigeons were required to be offered in sacrifice (Leviticus 14:22; Luke 2:24). Yet it was difficult to bring them from the distant parts of Judea, so a lucrative business selling the birds sprang up, with the sellers gouging the faithful by charging exorbitant prices. There were other merchants selling cattle and sheep for the temple sacrifices as well. Because of these sellers who preyed on the poor and because of His passion for the purity of His Father’s house, Jesus was filled with righteous indignation. As He overturned the tables of the money-changers, He condemned them for having turned God’s house of prayer into “a den of thieves” (Matthew 21:13). As He did so, His disciples remembered Psalm 69:9, “Zeal for your house consumes me, and the insults of those who insult you fall on me.”

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/temple-c...#ixzz3WdB90TsY

What about the mega churches today that have STARBUCKS, McDonald's and other retail businesses?




I most certainly do BELIEVE Jesus would support ANY protest in the temple today that denied people equality or takes advantage of the least of these..

That was an easy answer, waiting for a more difficult one...

Jesus's WHOLE ENTIRE LIFE was one huge SOCIAL and POLITICAL protest.

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Old 04-07-2015, 08:47 AM
 
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NO, Jesus flipped the tables because the vendors were selling animals and what-nots for sacrifice INFLATED PRICES because many people had traveled a great distance and had nothing to offer and the vendors took advantage of the peoples' situation.....
Actually your link agrees with what I said. Jesus flipped the tables because the money changers had turned the house of worship into a house of business. His own words: ""Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father's house into a market!". He said His house will be called a house of prayer. What do you do in a house of prayer? The answer is obvious.

Would He approve a pro-gun rally in a house of worship? No.

Anti-immigration rally? No

Pro-abortion rally? No

Pro-gay rally? No.

Such things do not belong in the house of worship. Whether or not you see gay marriage as an "equality" issue is irrelevant. That is your personal opinion. House of worship is not the place for political rallies.
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