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Old 03-05-2016, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Just wondering. El the Bull was reputed to have sired as many as 88 sons. Were they also little little invisible gods riding little bulls, in your enlightened opinion?
My enlightened opinion comes from Oral Torah, that the people were not foolish enough to suppose that God is a bull but rather it represented a pedestal by which God stood.
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Old 03-05-2016, 07:34 PM
 
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You guys can go to google and type in ,'' God standing on a bull,'' and see how many 3000 year old images you find of this very thing.


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Old 03-05-2016, 07:41 PM
 
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Just wondering. El the Bull was reputed to have sired as many as 88 sons. Were they also little little invisible gods riding little bulls, in your enlightened opinion?


8th century B.C. but I suppose I must be making this up, the idea a God would stand on a bull, and what it means.



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Old 03-05-2016, 11:13 PM
 
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Tired of Nonsense, I really am on your side, but I do know a lot about Paganism and a pretty good start on what symbols really do mean. I mean maybe I could help you in that area, it would be my pleasure if you are really into ancient signs, symbols and Pagan concepts thousands of years old and I would certainly find it interesting to be able to find somebody interested.


If you came to me and said, '' Hannibal, this is what I am trying to prove,'' I would lend a hand even if I didn't believe what you are trying to prove, I can at least give you an opinion of somebody who has looked into a lot of ancient thought and I like to consider myself as a sidenote. I see people talking about something, and I just like to add sidenotes.
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Old 03-06-2016, 12:10 AM
 
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My enlightened opinion comes from Oral Torah, that the people were not foolish enough to suppose that God is a bull but rather it represented a pedestal by which God stood.
The creator god was often depicted as a composite of human and bull. He was a god after all, and could appear in whatever form he choose.

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Old 03-06-2016, 01:02 AM
 
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The creator god was often depicted as a composite of human and bull. He was a god after all, and could appear in whatever form he choose.
The non-carnal interpretation of the symbolism is that the Bull represents our animal nature and God represents our consciousness ruling over that nature. When we use our consciousness to override our carnal urges with love fo other we merge the energy of the animal with the Spirit or our consciousness creating God. When Mithras defeated the Bull, it was the same kind of symbolism of conquering our animal nature. Jesus conquering His body's normal reaction and drives to the scourging and crucifixion is a more evolved form of the same symbolism.
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Old 03-06-2016, 01:03 AM
 
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The creator god was often depicted as a composite of human and bull. He was a god after all, and could appear in whatever form he choose.
The non-carnal interpretation of the symbolism is that the Bull represents our animal nature and God represents our consciousness ruling over that nature. When we use our consciousness to override our carnal urges with love of other we merge the energy of the animal with the Spirit or our consciousness creating God. When Mithras defeated the Bull, it was the same kind of symbolism of conquering our animal nature. Jesus conquering His body's normal reaction and drives to the scourging and crucifixion is a more evolved form of the same symbolism.
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Old 03-06-2016, 08:24 AM
 
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I have a footnote of my own....OUR consciousness and a murdering spirit, are the same thing, and there's nothing good or capable of redemption about it. That's what murdered Adam and Eve in the garden. ONLY the Spirit of G-d and His Spirit only are worth cultivating. Peace
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Old 03-06-2016, 08:34 AM
 
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The creator god was often depicted as a composite of human and bull. He was a god after all, and could appear in whatever form he choose.


No doubt, I am with you on this, there are many depiction of gods as many animals, I am just saying that the bull that was made at the mountain depicted a bull but with the invisible God standing upon it.
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Old 03-06-2016, 08:41 AM
 
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The non-carnal interpretation of the symbolism is that the Bull represents our animal nature and God represents our consciousness ruling over that nature. When we use our consciousness to override our carnal urges with love of other we merge the energy of the animal with the Spirit or our consciousness creating God.
When Mithras defeated the Bull, it was the same kind of symbolism of conquering our animal nature. Jesus conquering His body's normal reaction and drives to the scourging and crucifixion is a more evolved form of the same symbolism.
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