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Old 05-31-2015, 07:23 PM
 
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And for me, it's all about ALL of us getting out of the fire.

Isn't that what Christian universalism is about?

Would forgiving all make God evil? Or just mean that you and I are wrong?
No, Christian Universalism is telling people there is no fire. True Christianity is once you figure out the way out of the fire, telling as many other people as you can.

 
Old 05-31-2015, 07:30 PM
 
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Or, are you merely back to that of yelling, "Fire!"


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Old 05-31-2015, 09:53 PM
 
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No, Christian Universalism is telling people there is no fire. True Christianity is once you figure out the way out of the fire, telling as many other people as you can.
Dear God, what a sick religion you have. The Good News you are spreading is about fire.

On second thought, that fits the source.
 
Old 05-31-2015, 11:34 PM
 
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Dear God, what a sick religion you have. The Good News you are spreading is about fire.
On second thought, that fits the source.
They have been so indoctrinated into the Bad News of their corrupt anti-Christ apostate beliefs they have no clue what the Good News actually IS, Warden.
 
Old 05-31-2015, 11:34 PM
 
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Dear God, what a sick religion you have. The Good News you are spreading is about fire.
I will never understand how you think. How can there be healing without sickness? How can there be salvation without that which we are saved?
"And Jesus answered and said to them, "It is not those who are well who need a physician, but those who are sick. I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance." (Luke 5:31-32)
"For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." (Romans 6:23)
 
Old 05-31-2015, 11:37 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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I will never understand how you think. How can there be healing without sickness? How can there be salvation without that which we are saved?
"And Jesus answered and said to them, "It is not those who are well who need a physician, but those who are sick. I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance." (Luke 5:31-32)
"For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." (Romans 6:23)
I've always wondered why this simple verse in Romans is so ignored. The WAGES of SIN IS DEATH. Therefore, if you sin you will die. We all sin so we all die. Makes perfect sense. So what are Christians saved from if not death or sin?
 
Old 05-31-2015, 11:41 PM
 
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I've always wondered why this simple verse in Romans is so ignored. The WAGES of SIN IS DEATH. Therefore, if you sin you will die. We all sin so we all die. Makes perfect sense. So what are Christians saved from if not death or sin?
The verse is not a reference to physical death, but spiritual death.
 
Old 05-31-2015, 11:43 PM
 
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The verse is not a reference to physical death, but spiritual death.
Because obviously it made that perfectly clear, right???? How so???
 
Old 05-31-2015, 11:46 PM
 
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Because obviously it made that perfectly clear, right???? How so???
Um... Common sense? Look at the context. The wages of sin is death BUT the gift of God is eternal life. So either this verse is talking about spiritual immortality and destruction, or not a single human being has accepted God's free gift, otherwise we'd see a lot of immortal people running around.
 
Old 06-01-2015, 12:13 AM
 
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Because obviously it made that perfectly clear, right???? How so???
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Um... Common sense? Look at the context. The wages of sin is death BUT the gift of God is eternal life. So either this verse is talking about spiritual immortality and destruction, or not a single human being has accepted God's free gift, otherwise we'd see a lot of immortal people running around.
That is neither sense nor common. The Physical has nothing to do with the Spiritual. That is something that the carnal-minded seem not to get when interpreting the Bible. The eonian life that is promised is Spiritual and Christ ensured that for all of us. The quality of that life is what depends on our sanctification under Christ's perfect agape love (Grace) through love of God and each other every day and repenting when we don't. Our physical death is simply our rebirth as Spirit.
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