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Old 06-12-2015, 11:23 PM
 
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Musn't frighten the fundies by insisting one has to be, and do good, in order to get on the Big Guy's good side.

They like the easy-peasy, just-say-the-words-n'-be-saved belief. No need for charity, kindness, empathy and all that crap.
Saying the words and serving the Lord humbly is the hard way, the narrow gate. Offering the word of the Lord is charity, kindness and compassion.


"Seek rightousness, seek humility perhaps you'll be sheltered on the day of the Lord's anger."

"The Lord guides the humble to righteousness and He teaches the meek His way."
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:29 PM
 
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Take note of who Jesus was speaking to in the gospels, seriously - take note.

To those who justified themselves by the law, He threw the law right back in their faces (Paul agreed - no one is justified by the law. Rom 3:20, Gal 2:16)

To those who had no hope but to be convicted by the law - even stoned - He DID NOT CONDEMN.

Quick lesson by the Holy Spirit in back to back chapters:

Luke 18, the rich young ruler bragged that he had kept all the law; Jesus used the law to crush the tight fisted guy.

Luke 19, Zacchaeus (the tax collector we would've all hated) WAS NOT CONDEMNED and after sitting in the King's presence declared, "Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold."

The law makes people worse, grace sets people free - that's Paul message by the Holy Ghost.
Paul was speaking of the law of the Pharisees but the law of the Lord is not the same.

"Law will be sent from Zion and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem."

"Your righteousness is an everlasting righteousness and your law is the truth."(Psalms)
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Old 06-13-2015, 03:05 AM
 
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Saying the words and serving the Lord humbly is the hard way, the narrow gate. Offering the word of the Lord is charity, kindness and compassion.


"Seek rightousness, seek humility perhaps you'll be sheltered on the day of the Lord's anger."

"The Lord guides the humble to righteousness and He teaches the meek His way."
Let me know when this happens...
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Old 06-13-2015, 10:55 AM
 
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Let me know when this happens...
"The blessing of the Lord is on the house of the just. The curse of the Lord is on the house of the wicked."

Do you prefer the curse or the blessing?
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Old 06-13-2015, 11:16 AM
 
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If Paul was a false teacher, the evidence would have to be almost insurmountable to overcome the vast evidence that he was not. Paul is woven throughout the New Testament, the Apostles, the first century church and Jesus. To extricate him would be pretty much an impossibility.
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Old 06-13-2015, 11:36 AM
 
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If Paul was a false teacher, the evidence would have to be almost insurmountable to overcome the vast evidence that he was not. Paul is woven throughout the New Testament, the Apostles, the first century church and Jesus. To extricate him would be pretty much an impossibility.
Not impossible...
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Old 06-13-2015, 02:12 PM
 
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"The blessing of the Lord is on the house of the just. The curse of the Lord is on the house of the wicked."

Do you prefer the curse or the blessing?
What guarantee is there that either is a possibility? And how can anyone possibly predict what actions will produce which reaction?

No one can tell me with any certainty that doing this or that will bring a "blessing" any more than I could say doing that or this will bring a "curse."\
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Would that be a gypsy curse?

Curses are no fun. They can ruin your life. You can remove a curse. I call the process Remove Curse or Reverse Curse. There are many kinds of curses from the everyday anger we project on someone or something else to the professionally constructed and projected curse from someone practicing black magic. Sometimes we do not even recognize we are cursing or that our own cursing is what most leaves us open to being cursed.

Remove Curses and Stop god-n-the-tiny-box people from trying to scare you.
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Old 06-13-2015, 03:13 PM
 
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Only the people who Paul preaches/teaches against, are the ones who speak against Him.
Jesus made Him a disciple, nuff said. Good'enuf for me.

Jesus don't make mistakes, nor does He forget.
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Old 06-13-2015, 03:55 PM
 
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Only the people who Paul preaches/teaches against, are the ones who speak against Him.
Jesus made Him a disciple, nuff said. Good'enuf for me.

Jesus don't make mistakes, nor does He forget.
Jesus will remember what Paul has said against Him.

Jesus was long gone when Paul came along. All we have is Paul's word that he was "chosen" to be some pope-ish clown.
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Old 06-13-2015, 05:21 PM
 
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If Paul was a false teacher, the evidence would have to be almost insurmountable to overcome the vast evidence that he was not. Paul is woven throughout the New Testament, the Apostles, the first century church and Jesus. To extricate him would be pretty much an impossibility.
Remember, tares and wheat....
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