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Old 09-06-2015, 05:18 PM
 
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Maybe she was sinless... then had Jesus... then sinned afterwards... That's all speculation.

What do we know for sure... she was born of two earthly parents. At that point, she was doomed by association.

When her life ended, she was not raised from the dead and her body returned to the ground. Why is that important? Because Jesus had not sinned, He was not subject to the penalty of death. Therefore death could not hold Him. Can't say the same for Mary. Her body returned to the ground just like everyone else who came from Adam - who was subject to that penalty in Genesis 3.
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Old 09-06-2015, 05:21 PM
 
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Maybe she was sinless... then had Jesus... then sinned afterwards... That's all speculation.

What do we know for sure... she was born of two earthly parents. At that point, she was doomed by association. That's how her life started.

When her life ended, she was not raised from the dead and her body returned to the ground. Why is that important? Because Jesus had not sinned, He was not subject to the penalty of death. Therefore death could not hold Him. Can't say the same for Mary. Her body returned to the ground just like everyone else who came from Adam - who was subject to that penalty in Genesis 3.
If he wasn't subject to the penalty of death, then he would not have died..."He shall eat curds and whey until he learns to choose the good and reject the bad"...
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Old 09-06-2015, 05:21 PM
 
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What live one?...

When you see all those die by the "vaccine" I've mentioned in the past, soon after you're going to know a terror you've never experienced and come Judgement you'll never say I didn't warn you.

lucifer is the father of all lies. he is the master of the- "wide is the path to destruction".

-you'll see and you will remember my words.
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Old 09-06-2015, 05:24 PM
 
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"For all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God".



Ecclesiastes 7:20
Indeed, there is no one on earth who is righteous, no one who does what is right and never sins.

Romans 3:10
As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one;
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Old 09-06-2015, 05:26 PM
 
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Yes.
If you and God are having conversations..... be sure and let him know the Syrian refugees are in dire need of safe passage and a place to live. Chatting with him whether or not Mary sinned seems kind of...... strange..... when there are bigger problems in the world.

I know the fundamentalists are convinced the Catholics are doing it all wrong because most of them have a deep-rooted prejudice against Catholics but..... do try and cope. God will not be sending the Catholics to hell for believing the Virgin Mother was sinless.
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Old 09-06-2015, 05:26 PM
 
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When you see all those die by the "vaccine" I've mentioned in the past, soon after you're going to know a terror you've never experienced and come Judgement you'll never say I didn't warn you.

lucifer is the father of all lies. he is the master of the- "wide is the path to destruction".

-you'll see and you will remember my words.
I am not terrified of anything...

There is no vaccine and you will one day pass away, probably not realizing how foolish you've been...Sad...

Lucifer does not exist...You've been told this many times but continue to persist in this heresy, you have been warned, but yet persist to run this course and you will be called to account for it...You don't even know the true nature of Satan...
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Old 09-06-2015, 05:29 PM
 
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I am not terrified of anything...

There is no vaccine and you will one day pass away, probably not realizing how foolish you've been...Sad...

Lucifer does not exist...You've been told this many times but continue to persist in this heresy, you have been warned, but yet persist to run this course and you will be called to account for it...You don't even know the true nature of Satan...
What words can a man be told to follow a creature God calls the father of all lies?
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Old 09-06-2015, 05:29 PM
 
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If he wasn't subject to the penalty of death, then he would not have died..."He shall eat curds and whey until he learns to choose the good and reject the bad"...
Obviously there was a physical death. However, his body was not there and did not return to the ground like all who came from Adam.

Acts 2:22-24 - "Men of Israel, listen to these words: Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know-- 23 this Man, delivered over by the predetermined plan and foreknowledge of God, you nailed to a cross by the hands of godless men and put Him to death. 24 "But God raised Him up again, putting an end to the agony of death, since it was impossible for Him to be held in its power.
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Old 09-06-2015, 05:32 PM
 
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If you and God are having conversations..... be sure and let him know the Syrian refugees are in dire need of safe passage and a place to live. Chatting with him whether or not Mary sinned seems kind of...... strange..... when there are bigger problems in the world.

I know the fundamentalists are convinced the Catholics are doing it all wrong because most of them have a deep-rooted prejudice against Catholics but..... do try and cope.

Each person who is "born again" has God's Spirit inside them according to His Son Jesus.

That being, God is always influencing my Soul.

People have no problem listening to the evil of their Soul, but tell them God speaks also and listen then to the evil they spew, denying Him.
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Old 09-06-2015, 05:35 PM
 
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Obviously there was a physical death. However, his body was not there and did not return to the ground like all who came from Adam.

Acts 2:22-24 - "Men of Israel, listen to these words: Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know-- 23 this Man, delivered over by the predetermined plan and foreknowledge of God, you nailed to a cross by the hands of godless men and put Him to death. 24 "But God raised Him up again, putting an end to the agony of death, since it was impossible for Him to be held in its power.
If he was not subject to death then he would not have died...It's that simple...Are you forgetting the three that were cast into a furnace and came out unscathed?...Christians have been miss-led, he did not die FOR our sins, he died BECAUSE of our sins, and that is the unbelief in what he had said of G-d...
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