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Old 03-19-2016, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Originally Posted by Medellin Paisa View Post
Doesnt work that way.

I will illustrate the difference between sinning and a sinful lifestyle.

Guy 1

Tries to abstain from watching porn. However, a few times a year he has wilted and watched porn.

Guy 2

Doesn't try to abstain from watching porn. Watches it weekly.

One is a few random mess ups. The other is a continual lifestyle choice.

I recommend you read this.

How bad can a Christian sin?
Words from still another biblically AND secularly uneducated Pharisee.

You don't know the bible because you haven't read alternate interpretations of the Bible.
You aren't secularly educated because absolutely NO credible psychological organization considers homosexuality a lifestyle.

YOU, however, have chosen the ugly lifestyle of a biblical Pharisee. Christian Pharisees seek to impose their own version of the holiness code on other people.

Jesus called Pharisees--"vipers."

 
Old 03-19-2016, 01:17 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Looks like that should have been a more important right for the Supreme Court to rule on than getting a marriage license.
The Supreme Court takes on cases that come to it through the federal appeals courts. They had cases from 2 of the 9 districts that dealt with the SSM issue and placed it on the docket for hearings and rulings. Since sexual orientation cases dealing with non-discrimination laws at the federal level have not been presented to the court, that issue will have to wait. Regardless of what some people may think, the Supreme Court does not just arbitrarily make rulings to change laws they don't like.
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Old 03-19-2016, 01:49 PM
 
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The Supreme Court takes on cases that come to it through the federal appeals courts. They had cases from 2 of the 9 districts that dealt with the SSM issue and placed it on the docket for hearings and rulings. Since sexual orientation cases dealing with non-discrimination laws at the federal level have not been presented to the court, that issue will have to wait. Regardless of what some people may think, the Supreme Court does not just arbitrarily make rulings to change laws they don't like.
Write this down, Jeff. THIS is how the SCOTUS works.
 
Old 03-19-2016, 02:45 PM
 
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I have no idea who Lopez is, I copied the entire quote from the McKellar site. Anyone who uses or endorses such blatantly false imagery and comparisons is beyond believability, much less credibility.
Interesting. Did you know who he was before googling him? McKellar is the President of HOPE. Homosexuals Opposed to Pride Extremism. I would think that he would need a slight bit of credibility to run the organization.
So maybe you've heard of Henri Nouwen? His credibility is (was) much better than McKellar's.

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Old 03-19-2016, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Googled him. Looks like one of God's saints martyred by his own church's teachings on homosexuality. God love him.
 
Old 03-19-2016, 06:51 PM
 
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There is none between these two
porn .... sexual immorality
same sex loving, committed (monogamous) relationship .... sexual immorality


both do not honor God
both do not keep the marriage bed pure

Jesus defined marriage as 1 man + 1 wife (woman) being married aka "united" and the two (1 man + 1 wife) will become one flesh.

God commands to flee from sexual immorality not excuse it away and remain in it.
Wow...I missed alot these last few days. I got to look back and see what I missed...Anyways. Just my two cents since I don't have much time:

Keeping the marriage bed "pure" was quite different back then and so was marriage in general (they didn't even really need ceremonies in some cases it seems)...all you have to do is read the Torah law and other Old Testament books on what is sexual sin and maybe look at what Jesus said about it (though he never directly defined it) and what is not and THAT would be how they defined 'sexual immorality' in the New Testament. Two people living together today would have been looked at as concubinage back then which was perfectly legal and the newer idea that any non 'state marriage' is sin is modern or ascetic nonsense. On top of that, its unlikely Jesus would have contradicted old Testament laws regarding polygamy inspite of the newer more popular Roman standards so saying his comments on 'one man, one woman' were about setting a 'limit' is probably not a good understanding since his comments were about divorce anyways.
 
Old 03-19-2016, 07:20 PM
 
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Write this down, Jeff. THIS is how the SCOTUS works.
Doesn't change my point. Why wasn't there a much louder voice of injustice about employment over SSM?
 
Old 03-19-2016, 07:21 PM
 
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As do I. Obviously those fundies who are perverting the message of Christ are refusing to listen...
So the Bible is a perversion now?
 
Old 03-19-2016, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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So the Bible is a perversion now?
Among other atrocities.

But it also has some merit.

If one has what it takes to separate the wheat from the chaff.

And fundies, including you, do not.
 
Old 03-19-2016, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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So the Bible is a perversion now?
... that's not what was stated, so why pervert what was said by insinuating something else?
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