Kirk Cameron says fornication and adultery are bigger problems than gay marriage (evolution, moral)
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If you don't feel it, at least look it up so you'll know on some level what others experience.
How does empathizing determine right or wrong? I can certainly empathize with someone's pain...but there is nothing in the emotion that tells me that something is moral or immoral.
You really haven't answered the question, either. What makes something "good", or "moral"? How is that determined? What source do you appeal to? Do you understand what I'm asking?
Innate. I am born with it. My children have been born with it. We have nurtured these qualities.
I do not appeal to any source. It comes naturally.
You need the bible to keep you in line, or else you will be out of control. I am capable of controlling myself without effort.
Why is that so difficult for you? You should be asking why you cannot control your behavior without the bible.
So some things are always right and some are wrong?
I've never suggested that. I innately know that some things are right and wrong, as well. God has hard-wired that in me.
How do you think that innate sense of morality got placed in us?
Not placed. It is part of our DNA. Not everyone has it. It has to be nurtured. I am a good person, and that has been nurtured, and rewarded through out my life. My children are good people and that goodness has been nurtured and rewarded.
Not everyone has that innate sense. Is it nature and nurture? Yes. If God had anything to do with it, why do some of us have it ,and not others? Why would God differentiate, and not hard wire it in all of us?
Not placed. It is part of our DNA. Not everyone has it. It has to be nurtured. I am a good person, and that has been nurtured, and rewarded through out my life. My children are good people and that goodness has been nurtured and rewarded.
Not everyone has that innate sense. Is it nature and nurture? Yes. If God had anything to do with it, why do some of us have it ,and not others? Why would God differentiate, and not hard wire it in all of us?
He did. Everyone has that hard-wired innate sense of right and wrong. But the bible also says that sin blinds us from it.
For you. The bible is your guide to everything in your life. Not so for others.
The bible has nothing to do with the fact my children are good, kind, human beings. How did that happen? They have not availed themselves of the bible. They have no knowledge of the commandments either. They are the finest human beings I know.
If we are innately hard wired for goodness, then nature and nurture come into play. Chemicals effect our behavior. Why not morals?
I happen to agree with you that we should love others. Of course we should. But I want to know how YOU know that we should.
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Originally Posted by Pleroo
Because I have been loved, am loved, and do love. You?
Viz, you've said that you are innately hard-wired with a sense of right and wrong, and that everyone is. Okay. Perhaps that is true. And I believe that as we experience giving and receiving love - as love is "practiced" in our lives - we understand that love and a concern for others is the standard of "right and wrong". You seem to agree; everyone here seems to pretty much agree on that standard.
So ... what are you trying to get at here? What differentiation are you trying to make between what you are saying and what I or others are saying?
I innately know that some things are right and wrong, as well.
God has hard-wired that in me.
Then, you should know that your ways are not necessarily his way.
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