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If He was NOT human, nothing He achieved would matter to us. He is the "first-born" as Spirit and we are to follow. Your beliefs require magical thinking and nonsense that has NEVER been the point. You are a fundamentalist who follows one master - the Bible - and denies the New Covenant. You cannot serve two masters. Either you follow the Bible or you follow the Spirit of agape love (Who IS God) and His guide - the Comforter sent in Christ's name.
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You have no clue what the New Covenant entails because you have denied it by being deceived into thinking you have to die physically to get it. If that were true then He died for us in vain, because we'd still be dying in our sins, no different than before He came. Your way, all that means is the second death WILL affect your soul and not in a good way. Wake up while you still have time and cast down that seducing spirit that has taken you captive with pleasant-to-the-flesh words. Peace
We do not have to die physically to GET the New Covenant. Christ did that for us. By His death and rebirth as Spirit, He connected ALL HUMAN consciousness to God through HIS HUMAN consciousness that manifested perfectly the Spirit of agape love (Who IS God). Now He abides with us within our consciousness as the Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the truth God has "written in our hearts" so we do not need anyone to teach us. You override what is "written in your heart" with the "words written in ink" and endanger the development and maturity of your Spirit. We all have embryo Spirits that must mature to be "born again" as Spirit upon our physical death. Take heed to feed your embryo Spirit what it needs to mature, Rbbi.
Take heed to feed your embryo Spirit.. maybe it couldn't hurt to check out those "words written in ink", Gods Word, once in a while just to see what was there? There are many "take heeds" in there for instance.. not to fall into temption .. not to turn to evil.. for the leaven of the pharisees.. and those are good advice!
We do not have to die physically to GET the New Covenant. Christ did that for us. By His death and rebirth as Spirit, He connected ALL HUMAN consciousness to God through HIS HUMAN consciousness that manifested perfectly the Spirit of agape love (Who IS God). Now He abides with us within our consciousness as the Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the truth God has "written in our hearts" so we do not need anyone to teach us. You override what is "written in your heart" with the "words written in ink" and endanger the development and maturity of your Spirit. We all have embryo Spirits that must mature to be "born again" as Spirit upon our physical death. Take heed to feed your embryo Spirit what it needs to mature, Rbbi.
Is it just me, or did you just contradict yourself (in the confusion idolatry brings) from the beginning of the paragraph to the end?
And you are confused about the Comforter. It is the OUTWARD anointing, not the inward anointing. Peace
Some of us fall into the trap of thinking that finding hidden meaning in a book indicates that we are maturing. Its a very "seductive" high.
The problem with that statement is that it is the Spirit that reveals, and as anyone knows who receives the hidden manna, it always COSTS SOMETHING. Few are willing to pay the price. Peace
The problem with that statement is that it is the Spirit that reveals, and as anyone knows who receives the hidden manna, it always COSTS SOMETHING. Few are willing to pay the price. Peace
There's no problem with the statement I made. It's very seductive, for various reasons, to think that one is receiving "hidden manna" that others are not. It's seductive to think that God is rewarding one for being a noble person who is willing to pay a high price that others aren't willing to pay. I get it. I do.
Manna is nice, but the right spirit is love and there is nothing exclusive about that spirit. It's not a spirit that gets off on thinking it's one of the "few".
There's no problem with the statement I made. It's very seductive, for various reasons, to think that one is receiving "hidden manna" that others are not. It's seductive to think that God is rewarding one for being a noble person who is willing to pay a high price that others aren't willing to pay. I get it. I do.
Manna is nice, but the right spirit is love and there is nothing exclusive about that spirit. It's not a spirit that gets off on thinking it's one of the "few".
And you, of course, know the motive of my heart, and have told me so in your version of "love". I didn't say anything the Word doesn't say, so I guess it's "exclusionary" too. Peace
And you, of course, know the motive of my heart, and have told me so in your version of "love". I didn't say anything the Word doesn't say, so I guess it's "exclusionary" too. Peace
We do not have to die physically to GET the New Covenant. Christ did that for us. By His death and rebirth as Spirit, He connected ALL HUMAN consciousness to God through HIS HUMAN consciousness that manifested perfectly the Spirit of agape love (Who IS God). Now He abides with us within our consciousness as the Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the truth God has "written in our hearts" so we do not need anyone to teach us. You override what is "written in your heart" with the "words written in ink" and endanger the development and maturity of your Spirit. We all have embryo Spirits that must mature to be "born again" as Spirit upon our physical death. Take heed to feed your embryo Spirit what it needs to mature, Rbbi.
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Is it just me, or did you just contradict yourself (in the confusion idolatry brings) from the beginning of the paragraph to the end?
No, Rbbi, it is you who are confused in your idolatry of the written word.
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And you are confused about the Comforter. It is the OUTWARD anointing, not the inward anointing. Peace
Not so:
John 14:26 King James Version (KJV)
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Where is our remembrance on the outside of our body, Rbbi??? It is on the inside within our consciousness.
1 John 2:27 (King James Version)
27But the anointing which ye have received of Him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in Him.
But the condition for that is you have to first have the RIGHT Spirit, which doesn't condemn the Word it gushes out from just as the water rushed out of the Rock. The Spirit is not divided, is the first clue. Peace
You seem to be confusing "the Word" with the Bible. Try to get that right.
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maybe it couldn't hurt to check out those "words written in ink", Gods Word, once in a while just to see what was there? There are many "take heeds" in there for instance.. not to fall into temption .. not to turn to evil.. for the leaven of the pharisees.. and those are good advice!
Do you agree that Love is the right spirit?
