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Old 05-13-2016, 05:30 PM
 
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Why do you believe that Acts says that the Holy Spirit is God? Or that he can be lied to?
Why do you believe that Jesus is called God?
Because God IS Spirit and God IS agape love. So His Holy Spirit IS agape love. Jesus brought God's Holy Spirit of agape love to His HUMAN consciousness so we could see and understand the TRUE NATURE of God. When He died His human consciousness was "born again" as Spirit (the Holy Spirit) and connects all human consciousness with God as the Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the truth God has "written in our hearts" under the New Covenant.
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:45 PM
 
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Nonsense. If He had died with mere human consciousness only, He would never have risen from the dead. Further, He didn't need to be "born again" (should be born from above), as He who ascended is He who first DESCENDED. Peace
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:52 PM
 
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Because God IS Spirit and God IS agape love. So His Holy Spirit IS agape love. Jesus brought God's Holy Spirit of agape love to His HUMAN consciousness so we could see and understand the TRUE NATURE of God. When He died His human consciousness was "born again" as Spirit (the Holy Spirit) and connects all human consciousness with God as the Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the truth God has "written in our hearts" under the New Covenant.
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Nonsense. If He had died with mere human consciousness only, He would never have risen from the dead. Further, He didn't need to be "born again" (should be born from above), as He who ascended is He who first DESCENDED. Peace
If He was NOT human, nothing He achieved would matter to us. He is the "first-born" as Spirit and we are to follow. Your beliefs require magical thinking and nonsense that has NEVER been the point. You are a fundamentalist who follows one master - the Bible - and denies the New Covenant. You cannot serve two masters. Either you follow the Bible or you follow the Spirit of agape love (Who IS God) and His guide - the Comforter sent in Christ's name.
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Old 05-14-2016, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Some potential answers to Godhead ( religion like the description Trinity..non biblble term)

1. God could manifest Himeself in 500 ways if He choses ,but choose three manifestation of His Oneness
2. It' s a mystery (only cracked with Holy Spirit (a believing spirit) aka understanding
3. You will always get negative resonses from unbelievers ( MANY STILL HAVE SUPERNATURAL INSIGHT ,BUT
ARE GDHEAD (TRIUNE ) SLACKERS WHY? LIMITED STUDY( TEND TO BE SELFIES RELIGIOUSIES)
4. The three roles God choose were very cool Father Son and comforter aks Holy Spirit ( all applicable in their
app.
5. Just when you needed clues (dummies for Godhead) Jesus says crazy things like If you have seen me you have
seen the Father ( come Jesus thats silly! To his apostles do you not see the Father? Jeus being the fullness of
the Godhead ( what?) never mind you won't read this. I come in my Fathers name (Hey Jesus you can't do that!
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Old 05-14-2016, 10:48 AM
 
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Because God IS Spirit and God IS agape love. So His Holy Spirit IS agape love. Jesus brought God's Holy Spirit of agape love to His HUMAN consciousness so we could see and understand the TRUE NATURE of God. When He died His human consciousness was "born again" as Spirit (the Holy Spirit) and connects all human consciousness with God as the Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the truth God has "written in our hearts" under the New Covenant.
Again, I ask. In light of what Scripture says, why would you believe otherwise?
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Old 05-14-2016, 10:51 AM
 
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Some potential answers to Godhead ( religion like the description Trinity..non biblble term)

1. God could manifest Himeself in 500 ways if He choses ,but choose three manifestation of His Oneness
If he merely manifested himself as 3 "modes", how do you explain that all 3 were visible at the baptism of Jesus? Or how did one pray to the other?
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Old 05-14-2016, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Why do you believe that Acts says that the Holy Spirit is God?
Or that he can be lied to?

Why do you believe that Jesus is called God?
I don't believe you can lie to the Spirit.
And, I do not believe Jesus to be God.
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Old 05-14-2016, 11:15 AM
 
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I don't believe you can lie to the Spirit.
And, I do not believe Jesus to be God.
Peter told Ananias and Saphira that they did. Do you realize that? And do you realize Jesus claimed to be God?
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Old 05-14-2016, 11:31 AM
 
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I really believe we have taken FLESH and made it a DEITY. Rather, we have allowed a select few to interpret the trinity and make it a legitimate idol.


"ONE OF THE MOST interesting features of the early Christian debates over orthodoxy and heresy is the fact that views that were originally considered “right” eventually came to be thought of as “wrong”; that is, views originally deemed orthodox came to be declared heretical."
― Bart Ehrman, from "How Jesus Became God: The Exaltation of a Jewish Preacher from Galilee"
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Old 05-14-2016, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Peter told Ananias and Saphira that they did. Do you realize that?
And do you realize Jesus claimed to be God?
The Spirit knows the truth, and Jesus never professed to be God.

However, I realize that you desire to worship a triad God.
A god with three heads, which predated Christianity?

How they served and worshiped their gods, so shall you?
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