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Read it all:John 3:16 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 6:40 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
You don't believe in him, no benefit.
Believe the is the son of God, which Moslem's do not believe.
Silly people delude themselves into thinking an afterlife is some kind of exclusive club and only "their kind" gets the magic key.
I think what is going to happen one year on Rosh Hashanah, is that God is going to judge his sanctuary first, and suddenly millions of people are going to drop dead, but all of these are Christians, every one.
Then the entire world is going to laugh and think to throw a party but what the world will not know is that God had left the righteous behind and they will be like lions among the multitudes just as the world is saying,'' Go on up ye bald head, go on up,'' laughing.
If you're referring to context of what the Bible states, no, they will not. In fact, the Bible seems make clear that no one, regardless of race, belief, or creed, is good. (Isaiah 64:6 - "All of us have become like something unclean, and all of our righteous acts are like a menstrual garment." Psalm 14:1 - "There is no one who does good" Matthew 19:17 - "No one is good but One - God"). In essence, according to the Bible, no one can save themselves by being good because no one is good. The source of salvation is not in us, but in God Himself (John 14:6 - "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Light; no one comes to the Father except through Me" Hebrews 5:9 - "After He was perfected, He became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey Him..." Romans 4:25 - "He was delivered up for our trespasses and raised for our justification" Ephesians 2:13 - "But now in Christ Jesus, you who were far away have been brought near by the blood of the Messiah").
Jesus is very inclusive in that anyone has access to salvation, but also very exclusive in that that salvation is found only in Him. Any doctrine that claims to believe in the Bible but states any other method of salvation is seriously flawed.
Silly people delude themselves into thinking an afterlife is some kind of exclusive club and only "their kind" gets the magic key.
God's special-est little snowflakes.
Christians claim that God has written the law on the hearts of men, and if this means all men, it is all men.
To think that God is going to judge a person just by where and who he was born of does not seem like a just God. A kid born in a Muslim home doesn't have much chance, and a Jewish youth never even reads the New Testament.
But there is all sorts of promises to the Jew who doesn't believe, and there is all sorts of promises to gentiles who help a Jew who doesn't even believe in Christ. If a person is blessed for helping a non believer, imagine what it insinuates. God promised to come and take their guilt from them. Since the law is written on the hearts of all men, I think what we do has a lot to do with everything in that we know right from wrong, and if we do the wrong, it don't matter what you believe.
Jesus came just as Joseph came and what did Joseph do?
Joseph was rejected by all of his brethren, thrown into a pit{symbolizing hell}, he was sold into the gentile nations, and he was presumed dead by his family for many years.
When the sons of Israel realized who Joseph was they came to him in trembling fear BECAUSE they had rejected him, thrown him into a pit and sold him to gentiles as a slave where he became a co-ruler in the gentile nations just as Jesus has become a co-ruler in the hearts of gentiles all over the world.
Those brothers of Joseph who rejected him were told,'' YOU WERE MEANT TO REJECT ME, YOU WERE MEANT TO THROW ME INTO A PIT, YOU WERE MEANT TO SELL ME INTO SLAVERY.''
What happens to the brothers of Joseph who rejected him?
They were made rulers and shepherds over the whole land and they were allowed to choose out any land they wanted and they were deeply loved by Joseph.
That life of Joseph only portrays the life of Jesus and we can clearly see what happened to those non believers.
Paul explains the exact thing that happened to Joseph's brothers who rejected him.
Paul says that their rejection{Israel's} is the salvation of the world and if this be true, what other thing does it mean rather than LIFE for them?
Just as the rejection of Joseph led Joseph into Egypt where he actually saved the whole world, their rejection had actually saved the whole world, and if their rejection is the salvation of the world, it means they are blessed and made chief rulers as Joseph made his brethren.
Muslims also see Jesus are their (and the Jewish) Messiah. But Christians don't often understand that king David and Cyrus are called Messiahs in the idol scriptures of the Ancient Jews (called O.T. by Ancient Christians).
Muslims believe whatever they want about good "people of the book" and many believe that for a Muslim to get to heaven (or greater heavens) is easier than for a Christian or a Jew or a Sabian (mystery religion, but probably apostates and different sect of Abrahamist -- perhaps Psalmists, John-the-Baptistists, or Harranians, etc. which still believed in Monotheism and Judgement Day).
Still, Muslims believe a "good" Christian, Jew, or Sabian still gets to heaven (or lower heavens, perhaps).
Of course, Christians who rail against Islam or who worship Jesus as being a Triune God instead of only worshiping One God as God (and Jesus as the Messiah) are not really being "good" Christians in most Monotheist Muslim's views.
As is often many times, you have misquoted the Qur'an and misunderstand Muslim theology. Consequently you have an incorrect and incomplete understanding of the differences between Islam and Christianity. Here are direct quotes from the Muslim holy book, the Qur'an. They support my statement that Islam REJECTS the sacrificial death of Christ upon the cross as well as His resurrection. Islam REJECTS Jesus as the Son of God and Islam rejects anyone who believes in Jesus as the Christ of God.
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[4.157] And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the apostle of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.
[4.158] Nay! Allah took him up to Himself; and Allah is Mighty, Wise.
[4.171] O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one God; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.
[5.72] Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah, He is the Messiah, son of Marium; and the Messiah said: O Children of Israel! serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Surely whoever associates (others) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden to him the garden, and his abode is the fire; and there shall be no helpers for the unjust.
[5.75] The Messiah, son of Marium is but an apostle; apostles before him have indeed passed away; and his mother was a truthful woman; they both used to eat food. See how We make the communications clear to them, then behold, how they are turned away.
[39.4] If Allah desire to take a son to Himself, He will surely choose those He pleases from what He has created.
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Reason: Please stop using red text.
What somebody says and what somebody does is two different things. I don't see Islam any different that Christianity and even people in Islam keep common holy days with Christians.
Just like there is a difference in claiming to be righteous and what you actually do with your hands.
These are the holy days of Christ and one who keeps them in Christ is proving he believes in Christ in that he seeks out the leaven everyday as living a Passover lifestyle and he continues in he Holy days of Christ just as Christ has walked.
Christ was the example and those who follow his example actually prove who they follow when they have accepted the commandments of God and God's worship system.
If the Christian and the Muslim have different Holy days and feasts, then they appear the same to me.
Last edited by Hannibal Flavius; 06-06-2016 at 12:00 PM..
If you're referring to context of what the Bible states, no, they will not. In fact, the Bible seems make clear that no one, regardless of race, belief, or creed, is good. (Isaiah 64:6 - "All of us have become like something unclean, and all of our righteous acts are like a menstrual garment." Psalm 14:1 - "There is no one who does good" Matthew 19:17 - "No one is good but One - God"). In essence, according to the Bible, no one can save themselves by being good because no one is good. The source of salvation is not in us, but in God Himself (John 14:6 - "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Light; no one comes to the Father except through Me" Hebrews 5:9 - "After He was perfected, He became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey Him..." Romans 4:25 - "He was delivered up for our trespasses and raised for our justification" Ephesians 2:13 - "But now in Christ Jesus, you who were far away have been brought near by the blood of the Messiah").
Jesus is very inclusive in that anyone has access to salvation, but also very exclusive in that that salvation is found only in Him. Any doctrine that claims to believe in the Bible but states any other method of salvation is seriously flawed.
^^^ This
Those who reject Christ will not be in Heaven, but will remain separated from God forever. John 14:6 and Luke 16:16-31
Those who reject Christ will not be in Heaven, but will remain separated from God forever. John 14:6 and Luke 16:16-31
The words of men who want others to fear God instead of enjoying the company of God.
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