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Blinding believing regarding all, or a just comprehension problem for others ?
Blinded clergy lead a blinded-by-them flock - Acts 20:29-30; 2 Thess. 2:11
Blindly believing is credulity, whereas Jesus based his faith and teachings by his logical reasoning on the old Hebrew Scriptures. If a person wants to believe lies, then God allows that person to be blinded by their wanting to believe lies.
Christians by definition believe in Jesus ( thus that far differs when compared to Old Testament and 2nd)..Whomever believes in the bible MUST read BOTH Testaments)
Some Fundies always seem to go to 1st Testament to prove a point and ignore the teachings of Jesus..Meanwhile, ignorance of the BASIC's get ignored s well!!
Golden Rule (Do unto others as they would do unto YOU)..Brother's keeper concept...But it appears so many have adopted old testament condemnation of sin..even though..Christ ( according to Christian belief) came into this world wo atone for failings, sins or choices that caused HARM...
Some Poster's have NO Mercy..Some Posters want to excuse horrendous crimes by blaming others..THERE is a reason why Original Founders of USA and it's Constitution wanted division of CHURCH and STATE..Because from whence they came..Religious rules of THAT time were applied..unfairly and without compassion for anything ..
I happen to believe and it's my Opinion Only..Jesus wether a Son of God or a Prophet..was saying.. God ( the Father) now see's by giving free choice to human's and demanding obedience wasn't working..Thus Jesus came, preached, healed and tried to promote compassion and need for tolerance...Greed for the sake of Profit isn't what is the goal..
In the Meantime..Capitalism if viewed thru the lense of business that was adopted..appears find..however..THOSE that HOLD that power ( Corporations) have taken over ( especially since the SCOTUS ruling of Citizens United) ..Corporations are People too?? GMAFB
God, for those that believe in him want's any human to LEARN..thru mistakes, atone for them..give back etc..Fundies..Judge ( where that God's decision..NO base human) ..Why isn't that Bible scripture ever repeated .."Judge NOT least WE be Judged" ??
When I say this..It mean's whatever judgement a human applies is strictly a person biased opinion..as when God or Supreme Being Judges the whole picture NOT the snapshot..Human's ASSume a lot!!
The reason we are to ' judge not ' is in connection to personal judgement because God's judgement on matters is already recorded in Scripture ( such as Hebrews 13:4 ) for all to read.
The judges of Psalm 82 were human judges who were to use God's recorded judgement in order to judge between right or wrong.
' judge not ' in personal matters would include Not judging another as to impute a bad or wrong motive to another. Also, such as Not seeing the rafter in one's own eye.....
More hubris. YOU know--only you. The life experiences of half a dozen others is BS when compared to your pride.
BTW, I find it odd that you think I should give credence to the life experiences of half a dozen of others here, when you don't give any credence to the life experiences of the people of the bible, including the disciples and the ones of the OT. But I should listen to YOU? Peace
I know what it is to experience reality beyond the senses and what I find there is nothing like the nonsense you propound. I cannot imagine what kind of experiences led you to your current irrational mode of thought but I am certain it had nothing to do with God. Caveat Superbia.
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Originally Posted by Rbbi1
BTW, I find it odd that you think I should give credence to the life experiences of half a dozen of others here, when you don't give any credence to the life experiences of the people of the bible, including the disciples and the ones of the OT. But I should listen to YOU? Peace
The life experiences of the people of the Bible were experiences of ignorant primitives and superstitious barbarians, not remotely equivalent to modern educated and civilized people. Why do you listen to them as if they were educated and civilized???
The life experiences of the people of the Bible were experiences of ignorant primitives and superstitious barbarians, not remotely equivalent to modern educated and civilized people. Why do you listen to them as if they were educated and civilized???
The life experiences of the people of the Bible were experiences of ignorant primitives and superstitious barbarians, not remotely equivalent to modern educated and civilized people. Why do you listen to them as if they were educated and civilized???
There would be no civilization without the law, it just wouldn't be. The life of luxury filled without much war is given to you by civil minded people over thousands of years, and whether we evolved or there was a God in charge, your entire civil life has been carved out by the law of God whether you know it or not.
There is no civilization with God and you can look to any primitive tribe in the world still extant and their laws of cleanliness and of civil justice doesn't even rank in any kind of comparison. What you have from the law of God is grace and mercy with a civil people that let's you live from what has come from Torah.
Take away the Torah and you have nothing, you ARE in fact a result of THOUSANDS of years of civilization built upon the law of God.
You take away the good laws of the bible and take away everything written in the bible and we would have not had radio by now.
If you are looking at God like he wanted the blood of Bulls, then you are looking at God wrong, you have not seen what he is showing, you have not heard what he is saying.
Hebrews 10:5
Therefore, when Christ came into the world, He said: "Sacrifice and offering You did not desire, but a body You prepared for me.
Hebrews 10:6
In burnt offerings and sin offerings You took no delight.
Hebrews 10:8
In the passage above He says, "Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings You did not desire, nor did You delight in them" (although they are required by the Law).
1 Samuel 15:22
Samuel said, "Has the LORD as much delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices As in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, And to heed than the fat of rams.
Psalm 40:7
Then I said, "Behold, I come; In the scroll of the book it is written of me.
Psalm 50:8
"I do not reprove you for your sacrifices, And your burnt offerings are continually before Me.
Psalm 51:16
For You do not delight in sacrifice, otherwise I would give it; You are not pleased with burnt offering.
Isaiah 1:11
"What are your multiplied sacrifices to Me?" Says the LORD. "I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams And the fat of fed cattle; And I take no pleasure in the blood of bulls, lambs or goats.
Isaiah 50:5
The Lord GOD has opened My ear; And I was not disobedient Nor did I turn back.
You don't believe it As FOOLS do? Talk to me more about pride. And I'm not lording anything over anybody. I have shown the patterns that you can't see, and won't humble yourself to even consider. THAT is what really goads your flesh, the truth. Peace
The soul sickness of fundamentalism, is one that is virtually impossible to escape without an open mind to learning the context in which Scripture was written (all ancient literature has elements of the fantastical---including Beowulf written in the sixth century and thought by some to be an exaggeration of a real man--see Pace University's THE HISTORY OF BEOWULF). Much of the OT for sure was written as poetry and myth---the purpose being to explain why the early Hebrews were selected by God. It was never intended to be "real" history.
Yet, like the Pharisees you emulate (quite well I believe) you refuse to study the myriad of views regarding Scripture. If the Spirit of God were truly in you then there would be no fear. You are a frightened woman clinging desperately to interpretations God left behind decades ago. You don't even understand how NT writers intentionally misquoted OT Scripture or, in some cases, quoted "apocryphal" writings to make their point. That's a pattern you fail to see let alone comprehend.
God is calling for you to truly study Scripture and throw away the Sunday School lessons that comprise your "faith." But He will not strive much longer as there are others who need to be converted from their biblical pride.
And because you do not study, you cannot see the God revealing Himself for the 21st century. My flesh is not goaded by a foolish woman sticking her head down like an ostrich, let alone my spirit. I write for your benefit in obedience to God---and for the benefit of young people to warn them from the "ethereal" garbage you spew to look important to others. You are just another claiming not to hate, all the while pointing fingers with regard to YOUR views of sin in others.
May your delusions soon be dispelled so you can start the journey toward the Peace you've bypassed with the Book.
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