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Old 08-28-2016, 11:30 AM
 
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It's funny when people have nothing to say about the topic, they have to come in and flood the thread with off topic nonsense.
Your post is off-topic.
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Old 08-28-2016, 11:42 AM
 
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It's funny when people have nothing to say about the topic, they have to come in and flood the thread with off topic nonsense.
So, Finn. Add your views to the discussion. You have more to say rather that be the thread monitor.



Are there any contradictions in the Bible for you? If so, are they minor?
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Old 08-28-2016, 01:03 PM
 
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It's funny when people have nothing to say about the topic, they have to come in and flood the thread with off topic nonsense.
We continue to await words of wisdom from our evangelical friends as well...
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Old 08-28-2016, 03:35 PM
 
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Agape Love is the Love of God which we should all strive to have and which will labels us as bigots, haters, evil and all types of vulgar terminology because to have Agape Love one must have truth and share truth which is frowned upon in today's society. They would rather have their ears tickled with flattering lies rather than freeing truths.
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Old 08-28-2016, 05:01 PM
 
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Agape Love is the Love of God which we should all strive to have and which will labels us as bigots, haters, evil and all types of vulgar terminology because to have Agape Love one must have truth and share truth which is frowned upon in today's society. They would rather have their ears tickled with flattering lies rather than freeing truths.
If we are labeled bigots, haters, evil and all types of vulgar terminology something is terribly terribly wrong with our witness...
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Old 08-28-2016, 05:52 PM
 
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If we are labeled bigots, haters, evil and all types of vulgar terminology something is terribly terribly wrong with our witness...
No because the world does not like our witness of the truth. Jesus said the world would hate us because of Him. He also said the world would love darkness and hate light. Yes we should witness in love but we should witness in truth as well. No one in the world wants to face the truth that all fall short and sin, they want to justify their sin. How would you witness to the world?
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Old 08-28-2016, 06:54 PM
 
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No because the world does not like our witness of the truth. Jesus said the world would hate us because of Him. He also said the world would love darkness and hate light. Yes we should witness in love but we should witness in truth as well. No one in the world wants to face the truth that all fall short and sin, they want to justify their sin. How would you witness to the world?
FALSE. the world does not like the church's STUPIDITY, HATE and OPPRESSION of others.

The world dislikes the idea of Christian Sharia Law--and so do I..

Your truth is not always God's truth..nor is my truth always another's truth.
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Old 08-28-2016, 07:23 PM
 
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No because the world does not like our witness of the truth. Jesus said the world would hate us because of Him. He also said the world would love darkness and hate light. Yes we should witness in love but we should witness in truth as well. No one in the world wants to face the truth that all fall short and sin, they want to justify their sin. How would you witness to the world?
TRUE. Jesus came in truth and grace.
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Old 08-28-2016, 08:37 PM
 
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No because the world does not like our witness of the truth. Jesus said the world would hate us because of Him. He also said the world would love darkness and hate light. Yes we should witness in love but we should witness in truth as well. No one in the world wants to face the truth that all fall short and sin, they want to justify their sin. How would you witness to the world?
This isn't specifically directed at you it's just that you expressed the sentiment that bothers me.

People not only have a right but should be angry about what is being done in God's name. I would think followers of Christ would be even more concerned than an atheist . This is just one article I came across that details children dying because of their parents religious views. We already know that some religious organizations handle child rape in house by leaving it in God's hands.

I'm not accusing you or your religious organization of this because I don't know you. I know Christians probably find this just as disturbing as I do. Certainly you can understand the outrage. Do people who stand up and say that is unacceptable sound like they hate light?

Can we worry about the abuses of our most vulnerable members of society are being subjected to first and then worry about our own salvation later? I anticipate you saying that children are abused for non religious reasons as well. True. I don't know what the answers are. I do know that a lot is being hidden behind that veil of persecution.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...g-medical-help

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The shield laws that prevent prosecutions in Idaho are an artifact of the Nixon administration. High-profile child abuse cases in the 1960s led pediatricians and activists to push for laws that combatted it. In order to help states fund such programs, Congress passed the Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act (Capta), which Richard Nixon signed in 1974.

But there was a fateful catch due to the influence of Nixon advisers John Ehrlichman and J R Haldeman, both lifelong Christian Scientists.

Boston College history professor Alan Rogers explains how the men – later jailed for their role in the Watergate scandal – were themselves members of a faith-healing sect, and acted to prevent their co-religionists being charged with crimes of neglect.

“Because Ehrlichman and Haldeman were Christian Scientists, they had inserted into the law a provision that said those who believe that prayer is the only way to cure illness are exempted from this law,” he said.
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Old 08-28-2016, 08:59 PM
 
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Agape Love is the Love of God which we should all strive to have and which will labels us as bigots, haters, evil and all types of vulgar terminology because to have Agape Love one must have truth and share truth which is frowned upon in today's society. They would rather have their ears tickled with flattering lies rather than freeing truths.
There is no way on earth that acting out of agape love could EVER justify the labels of bigot, hater, evil or any other type of vulgar terminology. To have agape love one must have love and consideration for the well-being of EVERYONE involved, period. There can be no judgment or condemnation or mistreatment because that would be acting out of selfish concern for the elevation of one's own values above all the others. ALL of your condemners, judges, discriminators, and mistreaters have no clue what agape love IS nor who God IS.
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If we are labeled bigots, haters, evil and all types of vulgar terminology something is terribly terribly wrong with our witness...
Of course it is. They are NOT acting out of agape love as we are told to do.
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