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What is your opinion of these ancient Egyptian proverbs? Some of them were later translated into Hebrew and placed into the Old Testament.
Do you consider that it was the "word of God" even when it was Egyptian in origin, or did it become that later after it's translation? Was it just the "word of man" before it was put into the Old Testament?
How is it not considered "inspired" until later, when it is included in the Bible?
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...or the story of Gilgamesh, containing the story of the Great Flood
and written previous to the account in Genesis.
Personally, am taking the Christian Bible literally where it's written:
"All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching,
for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness"
That's good enough for me, as the New Testament of the Bible was many years
from becoming so when that letter was written.
Thanks for that, OzzyRules. Will quote truth wherever it's to be found.
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I agree. And I count that truth as the inspired word of God. Better yet, I count PEOPLE as the word of God (in the flesh) whenever they are expressing the nature of God, in word or deed.
I count PEOPLE as the word of God (in the flesh) whenever they are expressing the nature of God, in word or deed.
Amen, and amen. Truly, in deed as well as the spoken.
Am reminded of the story of a well-known woman named Agnes, who after she was invited to an anti-war rally had responded with something along the lines of, "No, I won't come... but when you have a "pro-peace" rally then I'll be there."
Once CBS anchor Dan Rather asked Agnes what she said during her prayers. She answered, "I listen." So Dan turned the question, asking, "Well then, what does God say?" She smiled with confidence, answering, "He listens." For an instant Rather didn't know what to say. "And if you don't understand that," Agnes added, "I can't explain it to you."
Agnes is the given birth name of Mother Theresa. Indeed, in deed.
What is your opinion of these ancient Egyptian proverbs? Some of them were later translated into Hebrew and placed into the Old Testament.
Do you consider that it was the "word of God" even when it was Egyptian in origin, or did it become that later after it's translation? Was it just the "word of man" before it was put into the Old Testament?
How is it not considered "inspired" until later, when it is included in the Bible?
First of all...why is this a "Christian" thing?
Second of all...if they were translated to Hebrew and put into Proverbs...so what? No. They were not inspired as Egyptian, if that's how they came about, but the writer of those proverbs was inspired to put them into the book of Proverbs. Keep in mind, Paul quoted from Greek philosophers. It doesn't mean the philosophers were inspired, but Paul was when he quoted them.
Amen, and amen. Truly, in deed as well as the spoken.
Am reminded of the story of a well-known woman named Agnes, who after she was invited to an anti-war rally had responded with something along the lines of, "No, I won't come... but when you have a "pro-peace" rally then I'll be there."
Once CBS anchor Dan Rather asked Agnes what she said during her prayers. She answered, "I listen." So Dan turned the question, asking, "Well then, what does God say?" She smiled with confidence, answering, "He listens." For an instant Rather didn't know what to say. "And if you don't understand that," Agnes added, "I can't explain it to you."
Agnes is the given birth name of Mother Theresa. Indeed, in deed.
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I'd never heard that. I'll be pondering that one for a while.
"Inspired", as translated from the original Greek, literally means "GOD breathed". Hence, as the OP's subject had subsequently become scripture as well as Christ Jesus often quoting from the Old Testament then it seems to me that the topic relates to "Christianity".
Just one strange man's estimation. Could be wrong. Sometimes I'm wrong a lot.
Second of all...if they were translated to Hebrew and put into Proverbs...so what? No. They were not inspired as Egyptian, if that's how they came about, but the writer of those proverbs was inspired to put them into the book of Proverbs. Keep in mind, Paul quoted from Greek philosophers. It doesn't mean the philosophers were inspired, but Paul was when he quoted them.
Let's see if I understand you correctly: An anonymous Egyptian guy comes up with a nifty saying.
But he's not inspired.
Another anonymous guy steals the Egyptian's line and it ends up in a book.
The anonymous plagiarist, according to you, is inspired. But not the one who originated the thought?
To me, there's something seriously wrong with that picture.
Let's see if I understand you correctly: An anonymous Egyptian guy comes up with a nifty saying.
But he's not inspired.
Another anonymous guy steals the Egyptian's line and it ends up in a book.
The anonymous plagiarist, according to you, is inspired. But not the one who originated the thought?
To me, there's something seriously wrong with that picture.
God inspired the Bible. He did not inspire the anonymous Egyptian, or the anonymous pagan of Paul's day.
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