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Yes, people helping you become a better person is one of the benefits of being a member in the church family.
Education is helpful as well. Teachers and Professors can teach you about how the world actually works. It teaches people to discern wheat from chaff - truth from legend - science from sacrificing lambs.
I suppose he would considering the punishment that awaits him for grinding his possesion of mustard seeds instead of providing good soil to plant them.
As for you.
Tell, me. Do you remember what I shared with you concerning the five men to the north, and the five men to the south?
Did this involve two good witches, a lion, a couple of guys made of tin and straw, a girl and a Scottish terrier?
We seem to have gotten off track a smidgin'. Where in scripture does this notion that hell is a literal place of eternal torment actually come from? I DO know the verses that are cited but I'd like the proponents of this horrible belief to present them themselves so that we can discuss them in an authentic scriptural and (ahem) intellectual manner. Also, for you 'eternal hellfire' proponents ...where, precisely, is hell located geographically if we're to believe that it actually does exist? Is it found on Google Maps?
What he was trying to say is, when they become a member of the church they can have their sin pointed out to them in the hope they will stop sinning, rather than welcoming them and receiving them as they are, being an example of love, grace, mercy, forgiveness and righteousness towards them.
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