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Old 05-06-2018, 05:24 PM
 
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And that's the OTHER kind of double think: "It's obviously horrible, but it's God so it can't be, see?"
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Old 05-06-2018, 08:02 PM
 
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8.Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9.Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work;

10.but the seventh day is a sabbath unto Jehovah thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy man-servant, nor thy maid-servant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11. for in six days Jehovah made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore Jehovah blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. (Exodus 20)



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Why is a gate mentioned?
Or plural gates?

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Old 05-07-2018, 12:21 AM
 
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At least one with reference to Numbers 15:32-36. Beyond that, Israel appears not to have put the command concerning capital punishment into practice very often. Nevertheless, it was a given command. Now if you don't believe the Torah . . .
I do believe the Torah, however, the Torah also has many safeguards in place, for a Senhedrin that put one man to death in 70 years is considered a murderous Sanhedrin, and no one wanted to be remembered for that...But also people take literally an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, but that is not the way it is...Justice without mercy is not justice...The one that was stoned had violated the Sabbath in order to impress upon the people the importance of not violating the Torah, he self sacrificed for a purpose...
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Old 05-07-2018, 12:22 AM
 
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Well, it started with one "32While the Israelites were in the wilderness, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day. 33Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole assembly, 34and they kept him in custody, because it was not clear what should be done to him. 35Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp.” 36So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the Lord commanded Moses."

How many more do you need to show the barbarity of it?
It was the only one...
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Old 05-07-2018, 02:01 AM
 
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It was the only one...
It was the first one and the only one reported . Probably because they were fairly commonplace, and each one just as vicious and barbaric as the first. Torah may not record more, but NT does under Jewish rule as well as one stopped because the people were shamed into stopping their action by one who recognized the barbarity of the practice.
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Old 05-07-2018, 02:36 AM
 
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It was the first one and the only one reported . Probably because they were fairly commonplace, and each one just as vicious and barbaric as the first. Torah may not record more, but NT does under Jewish rule as well as one stopped because the people were shamed into stopping their action by one who recognized the barbarity of the practice.
Or a fictitious account, considering that Roman Rule wouldn’t have allowed capital punishment by the Jews...
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Old 05-07-2018, 07:36 AM
 
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It was the first one and the only one reported . Probably because they were fairly commonplace, and each one just as vicious and barbaric as the first. Torah may not record more, but NT does under Jewish rule as well as one stopped because the people were shamed into stopping their action by one who recognized the barbarity of the practice.
No, Yeshu reinforced the reality of justice in the counts of the Brit Hadashah.

If I recall only one person was stoned.
Anyone recall who that was?
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Old 05-07-2018, 07:39 AM
 
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Or a fictitious account, considering that Roman Rule wouldn’t have allowed capital punishment by the Jews...
If you had been there I imagine you would of realized what cruelty coursed through the veins of those who justify murder.
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Old 05-07-2018, 07:52 AM
 
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8.Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9.Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work;

10.but the seventh day is a sabbath unto Jehovah thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy man-servant, nor thy maid-servant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11. for in six days Jehovah made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore Jehovah blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. (Exodus 20)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brdhbgeGW4E
atarah!
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Old 05-07-2018, 08:02 AM
 
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Ahhhh religion....I popped in here because I saw "Shabbat Shalom" and was quickly introduced to arguing over the Sabbath/Shabbat like a brood of vipers....good grief I hate religion. SO pointless.
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