Jehovah's view of life (Kingdom, prophecies, faith, Adam)
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If your JW organization is to be believed for the 100 some-odd years since it's beginning, no hospitals would ever have been built, no soup-kitchens operated, no schools formed, no universities established, etc etc.
The world has been 'passing away' for thousands of years, and will continue to just as it has. But these things HAVE been done, by those who DO follow Christ (heal the sick, feed the hungry, etc), just NOT JW's.
I mean really, what fruits can be seen from the JW tree?
You didn't answer the last time I asked you.
Jesus told us we could 'judge them by their fruits'.
What fruits have ye?
We believe God sir. He provides the needs of His people. From the time we became a covenanted nation, we have not made hospitals, soup kitchens are not necessary, our schools are exemplary, and with those there is no need for universities. We are so very privileged to be educated by Jehovah Himself Isa 2:2,3.
We are very near finishing the assigned work however, and that is our fruits. You and everyone you personally know have been reached by us. With this pandemic, and the tools that have recently came about, we are reaching areas that previously were near impossible to reach with the good news.
Thanks so very much for allowing me to be able to present our fruits to you sir. Great witness to our obedience, I appreciate you asking.
Doesn't Jehovah value law over life? Isn't that why the Watchtower tells people to refuse a blood transfusions? The dietary law of abstaining from blood supersedes the santicty of life?
You should be aware the Law on blood was carried over to Christians, since you claimed to be one of Jehovah's people. Or have you forgotten Acts 15:20 already. Strange that I am still alive at 66 never having a blood transfusion.
You should be aware the Law on blood was carried over to Christians, since you claimed to be one of Jehovah's people. Or have you forgotten Acts 15:20 already. Strange that I am still alive at 66 never having a blood transfusion.
God gave sound of Self-name to very specific people.
You should be aware the Law on blood was carried over to Christians, since you claimed to be one of Jehovah's people. Or have you forgotten Acts 15:20 already. Strange that I am still alive at 66 never having a blood transfusion.
So the law is more important than life? I and another poster quoted scripture about Jesus's view on this talking to the Pharisees about healing on the Sabbath. He even acknowledged that the Pharisees weren't so anal that they wouldn't retrieve an ox is stuck in a well.
Doesn't Jehovah value law over life? Isn't that why the Watchtower tells people to refuse a blood transfusions? The dietary law of abstaining from blood supersedes the santicty of life?
The Watch tower tells people to refuse blood transfusions as a result of misunderstanding some writing directed to the Hebrews telling them not to eat blood. It was a common sense rule to drain the blood from meat before cooking it. It was a dietary rule. It has absolutely nothing to do with blood transfusions.
Instead, the Watchtower allows over 900 people per year to die because they refuse blood transfusions. (You can look the numbers up yourself. We've talked about it before.) If somebody starts talking about the medical value of alternatives, I hope they are sensible enough to know that every doctor tries every alternative before they transfuse blood. Failing to try alternatives first would be malpractice since there are small risks with transfusions. In truth, about 60 people per year die from problems with transfusions.
There is no defensible religious reason for a person to refuse a life saving blood transfusion, no matter what the Watchtower says.
Incidentally, before somebody starts talking about how transfusions are not necessary, keep in mind that there are several people who are active on these forums that are alive today because they were given blood when they needed it. They may, or they may not, choose to say so publicly, but they have told me about it privately. If somebody starts telling them that they didn't really need that blood, that is actually telling those people they should be dead.
We believe God sir. He provides the needs of His people. From the time we became a covenanted nation, we have not made hospitals, soup kitchens are not necessary, our schools are exemplary, and with those there is no need for universities. We are so very privileged to be educated by Jehovah Himself Isa 2:2,3.
We are very near finishing the assigned work however, and that is our fruits. You and everyone you personally know have been reached by us. With this pandemic, and the tools that have recently came about, we are reaching areas that previously were near impossible to reach with the good news.
Thanks so very much for allowing me to be able to present our fruits to you sir. Great witness to our obedience, I appreciate you asking.
You have never become a Covenanted nation, you co-opted, in other words, identity theft...
The Watch tower tells people to refuse blood transfusions as a result of misunderstanding some writing directed to the Hebrews telling them not to eat blood. It was a common sense rule to drain the blood from meat before cooking it. It was a dietary rule. It has absolutely nothing to do with blood transfusions.
Instead, the Watchtower allows over 900 people per year to die because they refuse blood transfusions. (You can look the numbers up yourself. We've talked about it before.) If somebody starts talking about the medical value of alternatives, I hope they are sensible enough to know that every doctor tries every alternative before they transfuse blood. Failing to try alternatives first would be malpractice since there are small risks with transfusions. In truth, about 60 people per year die from problems with transfusions.
There is no defensible religious reason for a person to refuse a life saving blood transfusion, no matter what the Watchtower says.
Incidentally, before somebody starts talking about how transfusions are not necessary, keep in mind that there are several people who are active on these forums that are alive today because they were given blood when they needed it. They may, or they may not, choose to say so publicly, but they have told me about it privately. If somebody starts telling them that they didn't really need that blood, that is actually telling those people they should be dead.
It comes from the Watchtower so you'll never convince them it isn't an actual law. They're not debating scripture but using scripture to prop up right belief. It's a dead-end to try and reason that it's not a law. They only way you can get them to reconsider is if you can show them that law doesn't supersede life. Even then, they are highly unlikely to agree. The only way that harping on issues like hiding pedophiles, no blood and shunning will have any effect is that many JWs themselves sense there is something wrong with them. That may be the key to getting them to think logically which they have been trained to "reject outright" anything that disagrees with the Wacthtower.
Strange that I am still alive at 66 never having a blood transfusion.
That is the most ignorant statement ever written. Moderator cut: Personal remark re one's education or lack thereof. And stop following those of the Watchtower/Jehovah Witness Organization who are fleecing the flock of ignorant or foolish sheep. They are the worst charitable Organization with a D-grade or rating, having no accountability for the tax exempt status or where the donations are being spent, other than purchasing property. While the majority have less than 30,000 annually in their congregations. Moderator cut: Irrelevant to religion.
Last edited by Mightyqueen801; 09-06-2020 at 10:37 AM..
Reason: Personal attack.
Does education have an impact on one's view of Jehovah (God)?
Or, one's understanding of life saving measures during childbirth?
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