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Old 11-20-2022, 10:21 PM
 
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Adam and Eve didn't leave the Garden of Eden and go in the Lake of Fire.
That is not what I wrote. Go back and re-read what I posted. The Flaming Sword and Cherubim represent the *exit* from the Lake of Fire and into the Most Holy Place of a new Tabernacle Body.

In other words, the Flaming Sword and Cherubim are a foreshadowing of the Ark of the Covenant. Their exit from Eden represented becoming born again of corruptible flesh.
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Old 11-20-2022, 10:33 PM
 
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They didn't physically die that day.

But because of what Adam did, they were sentenced to die, as all humans are.
In other words, what you are saying is that God lied.

Let us read the verse again...

Genesis 2:17
"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."


Day means twenty-four hours or less. Surely die means just that, a physical death.

They were to die on that very day, and not 'hundreds of years later' as you propose.

What you are telling us is that God did not mean what he said and that they did not die on that day.

Again, go back and study the other 'surely die' verses and you will see that your conclusion contradicts every one of them.
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Old 11-20-2022, 10:47 PM
 
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Cain is Adam and Eve's first child.

No such thing as Cain being Satan reincarnated.
You do not understand. The Dragon is the Spirit of Satan. It is not physical. Thus, Satan must fall like lightning to incarnate into a physical body to become an Antichrist and one of the heads of the Beast.

Here is Satan falling to become the King of Rome...

Luke 10:18
"And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven."


As I showed earlier, this has happened several times already...

Revelation 17:10
"And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space."


The one that 'is' represents the one Jesus saw fall.

The same thing happened with Lucifer. Some Christians believe that Lucifer fell and became Satan. No. It is the other way around.

The Spirit of Satan fell to become the physical Lucifer, which was a sarcastic name for the King of Babylon...

Isaiah 14:12
"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"


Lucifer was most likely Nebuchadnezzar. Some say Balshazar. Either way, Satan as Spirit falls to incarnate as a physical being.

Anyhow, Jesus is clear what happened with Cain...

John 8:44
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."


Who was the first murderer? Obviously, it was Cain, yet Jesus said it was Satan. It is both. The Spirit of Satan in a physical body.
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Old 11-20-2022, 10:53 PM
 
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Here is reincarnation as clear as can possibly be...

Revelation 17:8
The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.


The Beast 'was'. In other words, the Beast was alive at one time. Yes, as the previous Antichrist.

The Beast 'is not'. Of course. The Antichrist died.

Yet...

The Beast 'shall ascend'. What?!? How is that possible? He is dead. Well, duh, the Beast is reincarnated.

Thus, the phrase 'was, and is not, and yet is', would be yet another Biblical phrase for reincarnation.

God has made it so obvious that a caveman could understand it.
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Old 11-20-2022, 11:08 PM
 
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In Revelation 2:7, we see paradise and the tree of life is spoken of as being there.

'He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches;
To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life,
which is in the midst of the paradise of God.'


It used to be in the Garden of Eden on earth.

Genesis 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
The Tree of Life is the Zygote that resides in the Womb of New Jerusalem. It goes like this...
  • New Earth = Sarah
  • New Jerusalem = Sara's Womb
  • Tree of Life = Sarah's Ovary
  • Throne and Lamb = Abraham's Seed that fertilizes the Ovum
The Saved partake to become physically Born Again. The Marriage Supper is about conception.

We have an opposite in Eden...
  • Current Earth = Mystery Babylon/Hagar
  • Earthly Jerusalem = Mystery Babylon's Womb
  • Jerusalem Temple = Zygote of Mystery Babylon (our Body Temple as a single Cell)
  • Most Holy Place = Heart of the Earth/Moment of Conception
Adam and Eve were being given two choices as to which Parents they would like to be incarnated from. They chose Mystery Babylon as Mom and Satan as Dad.

When they partook of the Forbidden Fruit Zygote, they died and left their first estate.

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Genesis 3:22-24 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Do you even know what the phrase 'to know good and evil' means? It means Adam and Eve had experienced Hell and the Lake of Fire. That is what they 'knew' that is what they learned.

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Revelation 22:1 Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations.
A Woman bearing Fruit every month? Sounds like a Menstrual Cycle to me.
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Old 11-20-2022, 11:19 PM
 
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By the way...

For those wondering what the Forbidden Fruit was, it is described right here...

Revelation 17:4
"And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication"


Again, it is the Zygote of Mystery Babylon our Earth Mother fertilized by the Seed of Satan, our Earthly Father.

*ALL* have partaken to be conceived into this world...

Jeremiah 51:7
"Babylon hath been a golden cup in the LORD’S hand, that made all the earth drunken: the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad."


The 'Nations' is every Nation that has or will exist.

The Golden Cup is the Cup of Gethsemane as well as the Cup of the Baptism of Fire...

Matthew 20:22
"But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able."


Poor John and his Brother. They had no idea that they were asking to come back and serve again.

Yes, John is going to reincarnate...

Revelation 10:11
"And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."


The 'Little Scroll' is a picture of partaking of the Forbidden Fruit...

Revelation 10:10
"And I took the little book out of the angel’s hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter."


The bitterness of realizing he would have to incarnate again must have been awful.
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Old 11-20-2022, 11:35 PM
 
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Gen 1:22**And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
Gen 1:23**And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
Here is something that you may have never heard before. The First Adam and Ishshah did not have reproductive organs.

Reproductive organs were for the Animal Kingdom as you posted above. It was a gift God gave to them because animals do not possess the wherewithal to create Life from the Dust of the Ground.

Adam and Ishshah were to create Man via Dust of the Ground (Genetic Engineering) and Ribs (Cloning).

The phrase found here...

Genesis 2:5
"And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground."


... has a much deeper meaning.

Man was not created to 'pull weeds' for God. Man was created to 'till the ground'. In other words, the ground is the 'Dust' (organic material/seed) of Mother Earth. The 'tilling' is Genetic Engineering. That was our original intended purpose. God was trying to create a Being that was trustworthy enough to create Life. This is a big responsibility!!!

The couple failed of course. Thus, the First Adam and Ishshah were recreated with the Genetics of Mystery Babylon and Satan to become the Second Adam and Eve.

Eve was given Conception in her new body...

Genesis 3:16
"Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."


The Second Adam was cursed to produce 'Thorns' (Tares) whenever he puts his Seed in the Womb 'ground'.

Thus, on the Sixth Day, the Second Adam and the reincarnated Ishshah (Eve) could do what the Beasts do...

Genesis 1:28
"And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."


They were to 'replenish' the previous couple who died as well as produce new offspring.
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Old 11-20-2022, 11:36 PM
 
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Did the First Adam and Ishshah have belly buttons?

Nope.

The Second Adam and Eve did.
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Old 11-20-2022, 11:47 PM
 
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That is not your argument though, because you said die twice. However, if reincarnation were real, then a person can be reincarnated many times and therefore die many times.
The phrase 'Twice Dead' simply means that the person is already condemned to the Lake of Fire. In other words, no Salvation is possible...

Jude 1:12
"These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots"


The first death is when folks pass away. The Second Death is the Lake of Fire... aka... Vesta, the Moment of Conception in a new body...

Matthew 23:15 (Berean Literal Bible)
"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you traverse the sea and the dry land to make one convert, and whenever it may happen, you make him twofold more a son of Gehenna than yourselves."


The phrase 'twofold more' means that not only did the person reincarnate one time, but they are also doomed to be reincarnated again.

From where? Gehenna... Tophet... Vesta... Mother Earth...

Psalms 139:15
"My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth."


We were made in the Lowest Parts of the Earth. Hell is a parable for the Womb and Reincarnation. The verse means what it says and says what it means.

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Old 11-21-2022, 07:25 AM
 
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I wanted to highlight the above verse.

The Spirt returns to God. It is never destroyed as some Denominations believe.

Indeed, the Silver Cord is attached to what some call our 'Higher Selves'.

Science would perhaps call it Entanglement.
After a person dies, their spirit lives on in consciousness and goes to God and either goes to prison/hell, or to be with Jesus in heaven.
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