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Old 02-11-2009, 11:49 AM
 
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Why do you seem so bent on making Catholics "the best"? Just curious.
Simple. Because it is.
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:51 AM
 
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Ive always wondered how a church can be...
Pro-Abortion,Extreme Pro-Gay,etc
Any Thoughts??
Couple of questions:

1. Can you provide some web links to "pro-abortion" or "extreme pro-gay" churches?

2. What is "extrme pro-gay"? Is that like the church supports gays who run with scissors?
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:55 AM
 
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Couple of questions:

1. Can you provide some web links to "pro-abortion" or "extreme pro-gay" churches?

2. What is "extrme pro-gay"? Is that like the church supports gays who run with scissors?
If you are not against then you are for.
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:55 AM
 
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^Having a Pope does have his drawbacks. It's impossible to recant a boneheaded position like declaring condom use sinful because of the whole infallibility thing.
Have you ever read Humanae Vitae?

Humanae Vitae - Encyclical Letter of His Holiness Paul VI on the regulation of birth, 25 July 1968

Try to. Become enlightened.

Besides. Before this, ALL protestant churches Also believed all form of contraception is morally evil. Its was the The Catholic church that held on to its beliefs.

Oh and those birth control pills that the protestants said were okay, ended killing thousands of babies.
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:56 AM
 
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If you are not against then you are for.

Yes Sir..
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:01 PM
 
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I disagree. Pro-abortion is a term invented and used by conservatives to change the argument. It has no meaning. Pro-choice is the genuine description of the vast majority of people who endorse a woman's right to choose for herself.

In a perfect world, we wouldn't need to have this conversation because there would never be unprotected sex or unwanted pregnancies. Unfortunately, we are not perfect. Jesus calls us to love and forgive each other.
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:04 PM
 
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I disagree. Pro-abortion is a term invented and used by conservatives to change the argument. It has no meaning. Pro-choice is the genuine description of the vast majority of people who endorse a woman's right to choose for herself.

In a perfect world, we wouldn't need to have this conversation because there would never be unprotected sex or unwanted pregnancies. Unfortunately, we are not perfect. Jesus calls us to love and forgive each other.
Actually it is the other way around. Pro choice is a cop out because the end result is legalizing abortion, in support of abortion ergo Pro abortion. Pro choice keeps it from becoming a moral issue by clouding it making it a civil rights issue unfortunately "pro choice/ civil rights" people forget the rights of the child in this weak argument.

I would really have to wonder about a Christian who is pro abortion....err I mean pro choice.
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:09 PM
 
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I disagree. Pro-abortion is a term invented and used by conservatives to change the argument. It has no meaning. Pro-choice is the genuine description of the vast majority of people who endorse a woman's right to choose for herself.

In a perfect world, we wouldn't need to have this conversation because there would never be unprotected sex or unwanted pregnancies. Unfortunately, we are not perfect. Jesus calls us to love and forgive each other.
Actually if it were a perfect world, there would be NO protected sex, because you wouldn't have sex out of marriage.

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Actually it is the other way around. Pro choice is a cop out because the end result is legalizing abortion, in support of abortion ergo Pro abortion. Pro choice keeps it from becoming a moral issue by clouding it making it a civil rights issue unfortunately people forget the rights of the child.

I would really have to wonder about a Christian who is pro abortion....err I mean pro choice. Today 02:01 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Wichita,Kansas
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Couple of questions:

1. Can you provide some web links to "pro-abortion" or "extreme pro-gay" churches?

2. What is "extrme pro-gay"? Is that like the church supports gays who run with scissors?
Im not sure how common they are but there are a few in my city.
The pastor shows up and protest's FOR abortion & gay rights.
Extreme pro-gay IMO would be churches who fight for gay rights..
And have gay clergy.
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Old 02-11-2009, 12:35 PM
 
Location: New England
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Simple. Because it is.
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