Evolution and Creation

[DNick]

Originally Posted by bigthirsty

well I think its an interesting premise.. I really do. I mean in the end.. I just don't know. I guess it just doesn't matter to me.

What ultimately matters to me is my faith (whatever others want to call that) and the here and now.

does that make sense?

Yeah, and I intend to agree, it matter not so much how god created everything, and in what time span, really just the fact the he DID do it all.

[Reverend1111]

I believe in both. We evolved but there are some plants and animals that were created instantly. The chicken is one that didn't evolve from something else. We evolved from the scum in the oceans to lemurs to us. Our first humans were twins. We "branched off" from the lemurs that were fighters because the first humans wanted peace.

I don't care if you believe it or not, but read The Urantia Book. It's very scientific and scientists have proven it was written by superhumans.

[bigthirsty]

Originally Posted by Fundamentalist

#6 is not theology. Do you know what theology is. Seriously are there any Christians out there who believe in evolution and use theology to back up their beliefs?

Let me rephrase what you said:

#6 is not YOUR theology.

Do you understand the meaning of theology?

I only ask because you seem to think you know what evolution is.. yet you got that wrong.

[Fundamentalist]

Originally Posted by bigthirsty

Let me rephrase what you said:

#6 is not YOUR theology.

Do you understand the meaning of theology?

I only ask because you seem to think you know what evolution is.. yet you got that wrong.

This is about theology. I asked questions, last adam, sin and death and I am yet to hear it answered using theology. I do not follow your worldly theology which you can barely call Christianity. People who debate theology actually use scripture

[bigthirsty]

Originally Posted by Fundamentalist

This is about theology. I asked questions, last adam, sin and death and I am yet to hear it answered using theology. I do not follow your worldly theology which you can barely call Christianity. People who debate theology actually use scripture

I ask again. Do you know what theology is?

[mams1559]

Fundamentalist, I've tried this before and didn't get much response. I don't know how it will work out for you.

Again, my standard disclaimer regarding this topic: Believing in YEC or believing in evolution is not central to one's salvation. However, IMO it is inconsistent for a Christ-follower to believe in evolution.

I believe in YEC. I believe the bible is God's word and reliable and trustworthy. I believe evolution erodes the gospel and undermines Jesus. Without the foundation in Genesis as to why we need a savior, we wouldn't need Jesus. Evolutionists have admitted this. Believers need to wake up to this fact.

However, if you're interested in my view on this topic, I've provided the link to my related thread. I've said in it all I can say (I think anyways).

http://www.city-data.com/forum/chris...utionists.html

In particular you might find this specific post explains my position regarding evolution: http://www.city-data.com/forum/1885149-post25.html

Just a brief comment (or two)..

I think evolutionists dodge their own bullet when they say "evolution doesn't address how life began". That's a cop-out. Logically, if they begin with no creator and everything started from one cell, they have to face the fact that evolution must address where that cell came from. To keep going backwards towards a single-celled common ancestor, they have to explain where that single cell came from which will invariably lead to abiogensis (chemical soup stirred and jolted to begin the process of life from non-life). Dawkins has floated the idea that it came from outer space. That just puts the origin question off planet. If evolutionists believe there is no creator, then abiogenesis is indeed a stumbling block for them and they need to address the question.

And again, evolutionists are dodging the "incest" question as well. If modern humans formed from ape-like creatures, then wouldn't these small numbers of ape-like creatures have to interbreed to develop into the modern human? They don't accept and wish to flat-out reject the idea of inter-sibling/inter-family relations for the human population to grow under the creation scenario (via Adam & Eve and their offspring); however, the same inter-relationships must play out under an evolutionary scenario as well. So rejecting "incest" defeats their argument as well, IMO.

[Fundamentalist]

Thank you Mams! I will check it out.