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Old 06-30-2009, 01:16 PM
 
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There are many believers here who accept God's word and are servants of God. All that do not agree with you, beloved, are not rejectors of God's truth or the seed of satan. God bless.
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:17 PM
 
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But what claim to be true was given to you by something you claim to be UNtrue. It is hypocritical.
What i proclaim is Gods truth which you reject as untrue..which means nothing..
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:18 PM
 
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What i proclaim is Gods truth which you reject as untrue..which means nothing..
You still haven't answered the question of where you get your bible. How do you know it has authority.
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:19 PM
 
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All what you said is a rabbit trail..you reject Gods word that i as a servant of God proclaim..
We are all servants of God and it matters not what those beliefs are. Even athiest. When you walk in love, that is being a servant and you don't need a book for that. We are Love made manifest. If that is not God's word then I'm pretty sure you will be the one who will not see God. Reading a book cannot do anything for you in the way of acting on that love. If you say you are living God's word, then respect others and their beliefs or unbeliefs even if they do not agree with you.
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:20 PM
 
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We are all servants of God and it matters not what those beliefs are. Even athiest. When you walk in love, that is being a servant and you don't need a book for that. We are Love made manifest. If that is not God's word then I'm pretty sure you will be the one who will not see God. Reading a book cannot do anything for you in the way of acting on that love. If you say you are living God's word, then respect others and their beliefs or unbeliefs even if they do not agree with you.

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Old 06-30-2009, 01:28 PM
 
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You still haven't answered the question of where you get your bible. How do you know it has authority.
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Old 06-30-2009, 04:13 PM
 
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Aren't you doing the same as you claim I'm doing? You are quoting a book with authors who aren't Jesus. How do you know what Jesus taught if all you have are interpretations of His teachings? Where is Jesus' book in your bible? What did Jesus write so that I know your book is true? I don't want what someone else wrote about Him, I want His writings and His own words. Can't do it, can ya?
No need to mock my beliefs if you can't honestly prove yours with out quoting something. I can honestly say I have prayed for and received that which I practice. Divine Love. It is real and everlasting. Is your book? Can you take it to heaven with you? I can sure as you are real take Divine Love with me.
I am relying on a source, the Bible. I rely on its authenticity based in part on those who have sought to verify in part on those sought to disqualify, but have verified; in part on the unique structural integrity and unity of the Bible even though its parts have been written by several authors over hundreds of years; in part based upon the truths the Bible itself reveals. I do not take it in pieces; if God chose to speak in this way I believe he is able to accomplish it in spite of man's fallibility.

The gospels take time to quote the words of Christ for us. Nothing wrong with dictation either.

If you have received anything that contradicts clear teachings of the Bible, it ought to be strongly suspect, at least among Christians. Anything that is not in contradiction may be open for debate. I am not trying to mock your beliefs, I am only pointing out that if the Bible does not project the basis for your core believes, then they are patently not Christian. That doesn't mean you aren't entitled to them.

Jesus quoted much in sharing what he believed. "It is written..."

Yes the Bible, God's word is real and everlasting. I won't need the written word in heaven, I will have the Word that was with God in the beginning...
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Old 06-30-2009, 05:16 PM
 
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Okay, you get you truth from the bible. Why do you give the bible authority. It was written by men, and put together by the Catholic church. What about all those books we rejected, do they contain truth. If you put authority in the bible, by doing so You are giving authority to the Catholics Church, who put it together.
Actually, The RCC did not control the councils that determined what was canon and what was not.

There was nearly universal agreement on the canon of the OT by A.D. 250, according to one scholar, though there was at least some debate. This would be more than one hundred years before the start of the RCC.

Although the NT was debated much more, its canon began taking shape long before the RCC came to be. Paul considered the gospel of Luke to be authoratative scripture in 1 Tim 5:18. Peter also recognized Paul's writings as scripture in 2 Peter 3:15. Clement of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp, Irenaeus, and Hippolytus were said to have recognized several books of the NT as canon all before A.D. 250. Aside from the Apocrypha, the books receiving the most controversy were Hebrews, James, 2 Peter, 2 John and 3 john, according to the same scholar.
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Old 06-30-2009, 06:28 PM
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Paul considered the gospel of Luke to be authoratative scripture in 1 Tim 5:18.
1 Tim 5:18 - for the scripture says, "You shall not muzzle an ox when it is treading out the grain," and, "The laborer deserves his wages."

Okay, did you mean another verse, because I am having a hard time figuring out how this verse relates to your quote.
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Old 06-30-2009, 06:35 PM
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Actually, The RCC did not control the councils that determined what was canon and what was not.

There was nearly universal agreement on the canon of the OT by A.D. 250, according to one scholar, though there was at least some debate. This would be more than one hundred years before the start of the RCC.

Although the NT was debated much more, its canon began taking shape long before the RCC came to be. Paul considered the gospel of Luke to be authoratative scripture in 1 Tim 5:18. Peter also recognized Paul's writings as scripture in 2 Peter 3:15. Clement of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp, Irenaeus, and Hippolytus were said to have recognized several books of the NT as canon all before A.D. 250. Aside from the Apocrypha, the books receiving the most controversy were Hebrews, James, 2 Peter, 2 John and 3 john, according to the same scholar.
Just1Man, do you agree with Martin Luther and his position on the bible?
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