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Do you have only one role in life.? I take by the name you are a guy. So you might be a father, son, nephew, grandfather, great-grandfather,cousin, uncle, or others. But are you 7 different persons, or do you just have different roles you play in your life?
Maybe you are married, but are you, a husband to your son, taking you have one, or are you a husband to your daugher, or a father.
Do you divide yourself when you are changing roles in your families lives?
Only taking that you might be married, are you are son to you wife, or a husband.
That is how God is, He has three different roles, but one God. That is the best that I am explain, without sounded to text bookish.
When I speak about text books, people try to say, I am trying to speak over their head. So, I say, maybe if I break things down it might sound easier.
Sorry, I would like to always provide that God has many names and titles, but one God.
Actually, you said:
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Jesus (God), came to the world that He created in human form.Can as far as I'm concerned can separated a part of Himself. I mean, it doesn't really sound difficult for Him to do.
Then you talk about roles.
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Like I said before God has many roles that do many different things.
We as children of God have God's spirit, that He gave to us.
In Genesis you see God created the heavens and the earth, with speaking things into existance. The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. But as you see the Spirit was wovering over the face of the waters.
As you see the Spirit had His role, in what He did just as the other two roles that God played.
A role is not the same as dividing oneself and creating a son. Sounds like an amoeba.
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Before you begin to understand how Jesus came to earth, and how the Spirit that is already apart of Him, you must first undersand how God could even do it.
God said let us make man in our image, not let I, us, simply put, God is three person in one.
God speaks to us by His Spirit, meaning we have His Spirit within us, the same Spirit that came from God. So, I would say understand that before you try to understand how Jesus can receive the spirit apon being baptized.
Jesus didn't need to be baptized, it was only for the reason that it was prophesied that it must be done.
So then the prophet wasn't a very good one if somehow he influenced what happened.
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Because He was walking on earth as a man/God. Jesus prayed, did He need to pray in order to get things, I don't think He had to. I think He only did it for an example for us to live by. Jesus fasted, but I don't think that He really needed to, I think it was for us see. That is my opinion.
Jesus was always connected to the Father. As you read in the OT, when ever you see the word God, that is also Jesus, because He is God. I think that Jesus was showing us how to stay connected to the Father in how He lived His life on earth. Jesus was so connected to the Father, that He did nothing without Him. They work as one, so they are one and do there work together, just like the Spirit.
One can't be one without the other.
I am actually about to go and work out, have to keep up my figure. LOL, later.
All things you said...
and it would be more like if a husband had three households so he tore himself in at least 2 to cover two households then used his spirit to rule the other. But that is just my opinion.
God the Holy Spirit moved over Mary for the purpose of the virgin birth but He is not the father of Jesus.
In eternity past, the first person of the Trinity, who we call God The Father, commissioned the second person of the Trinity, Jesus Christ, to come into the world and pay the penalty for our sins. Christ agreed to do this. And so, in relation to their plan of salvation for mankind, Jesus Christ agreed to submit Himself to the will of the first person of the trinity who is the author of the plan of salvation, while Jesus Christ carried out the plan, and God the Holy Spirit revealed the plan. And so, in the sense of a family, with the authority that a father has over a son, so too in His submission to the will of the first person of the trinity, they took on the relationship of God the Father and God the Son.
Nevertheless, they are co-equal and co-eternal with each other and with the third person of the Trinity, God the Holy Spirit.
His title, Son of God, is a reference to His deity.
Now Jesus Christ is, since His first advent, the unique person of the universe. He is both eternal and infinite God, and He is also true humanity in one person. In His hypostatic union He is the God-man. The attributes of His deity and the attributes of His humanity never mix, but are always separate and distinct from each other.
The matter of His sonship must be considered from the standpoint of His hypostatic union. And this is why since we as Church Age believers are in union with Christ because of the baptism of the Holy Spirit, we are also sons of God and so can call the first person of the Godhead, Father.
before i ask my question, where did you get the concept that Jesus is the second person in the trinity? why second?
if that was what the trinity was than yes ok different roles one person. but this is not the trintiy and you know it,
look in the trinity you are not talking about three different roles, Jesus has a role yet he is a complete person and a God too on earth,
at the same time the Father God who has a role is in heaven while the other God of himself is on earth, both Gods are in 2 different places at the same time, 2 Gods not one God with different name titles like you tried to state above,
now the holy spirit who is also another God, comes down from another God, in it comes down on Jesus like a dove, but wait if they were one how could One God in heaven send down himself if himself (Jesus)was already on earth?
lets take myself as a cousin, ok iam one cousin sitting one the couch and my name is hotep,
than I cousin hotep send myself to the store and I give myself another name like uncle but it is still me(hopet) now i am still on the couch yet i sent myself to the store as well, 2 hoteps but one person.
no you have now 2 hopets one sitting on the couch and the other who's name is uncle but it is still cousin hopet going to the store.
with this trinity thing you got the different persons all in different places at the same time, not one God, you made them all Gods.
3 different roles and 3 differents persons is not the same thing.
Wonderful post hotep!! are you the one on the couch or at the store? should I call you uncle only when you go to the store?
Wish I had an uncle hotep who would go to the store for me. I need chocolate.
Funny thing... My husband went to the store and bought me chocolate... I guess my uncle hotep is closer than I think. or is my husband part of the trinity of me... I'm all confused. God works in mysterious ways.
A role is not the same as dividing oneself and creating a son. Sounds like an amoeba.
So then the prophet wasn't a very good one if somehow he influenced what happened.
All things you said...
and it would be more like if a husband had three households so he tore himself in at least 2 to cover two households then used his spirit to rule the other. But that is just my opinion.
actually it is when you are talking about God. Honestly, it is late and I don't have time to debate about who God is, He simply is. You don't want to believe that, then so be it. But I am not going to lose my sleep over it, GN.
actually it is when you are talking about God. Honestly, it is late and I don't have time to debate about who God is, He simply is. You don't want to believe that, then so be it. But I am not going to lose my sleep over it, GN.
I hear.. you give up. It just reminds me of what you said the other day when someone wouldn't answer you.
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I only come to the conclusion of what you refuse to provide. This is a debate forum. YOu are not doing much debate. Yep, go figures.
You provide a scripture, but don't like to be challenged on it. UMMMM, yea, I understand.
before i ask my question, where did you get the concept that Jesus is the second person in the trinity? why second?
It's just a theological term, because of the Father, Son relationship they assume with regard to their plan of salvation for man. A father has authority over a son. Jesus agreed that when He came into the world, He would set aside the independant use of His deity ( doctrine of Kenosis), and would rely on the ministry of the Holy Spirit to sustain Him in this life. This was because Christ was establishing the pattern that we are to follow in relying on the indwelling Holy Spirit to sustain us. He showed us how we are to relate to God the Father. It doesn't imply in any way that they are not equal. All three members of the Trinity are co-equal and co-eternal. In their essence they are exactly the same. They are three persons who are one in essense. One God.
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or is my husband part of the trinity of me... I'm all confused. God works in mysterious ways. 
Yep, go figures. 
